<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">On a related note, I wanted to say "GREAT WORK!" to GNSO Councilor Wendy Seltzer for amending motion 3 to include an impact analysis for freedom of expression. Thanks, Wendy!<div><br></div><div>These GNSO Council meetings can be a fascinating listen and are a good way to see how Council operates.<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Robin<br><div><br><div><div>On Oct 7, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Robin Gross wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Debbie,</div><div><br></div><div>I listened to the <a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-council-20111006-en.mp">audio</a> of yesterday's GNSO Council call and was surprised that you broke with all the NCSG GNSO Councilors and instead voted with the Intellectual Property Constituency (IPC) against Motion 3 which deals with providing law enforcement assistance on addressing criminal activity (at about 1 hr). The IPC stated it would vote against the motion because it did not give law enforcement enough of what it wanted (i.e. it was "too soft" and didn't collect enough info on people). </div><div><br></div><div>Would you be willing to explain to the NCSG why you voted with the IPC instead of the NCSG (and the rest of the GNSO Council) on this issue (Motion 3) in yesterday's GNSO Council Meeting?</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you,</div><div>Robin</div><div><br></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; "><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Please find the MP3 recording of the GNSO Council teleconference, held on Thursday, 6 October 2011 at:<br></span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-council-20111006-en.mp3" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span lang="EN-US" style="color: windowtext; ">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-council-20111006-en.mp3</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">on page<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#oct" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#oct</a></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;"><br></span></font></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Helvetica" size="3"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial, sans-serif" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; font-size: small; line-height: 19px; "><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1.5em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span><strong style="font-weight: bold; "><span style="text-decoration: underline; ">Agenda Item 5: Law Enforcement assistance on addressing criminal activity (10 minutes)</span></strong></span></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1.5em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">A motion is being made to recommend action by the ICANN Board with regards to addressing Internet-based criminal activity.</p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1.5em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+22+September+2011" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); ">Motion</a> deferred from 22 September Council meeting</p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1.5em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Refer to motion: 3 <br><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+06+October+2011" title="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+06+October+2011" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 255); ">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+06+October+2011</a></p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1.5em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">5.1 Reading of the motion (Tim Ruiz)<br>5.2 Discussion</p><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 1.5em; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><span>5.3 Vote</span></p></span></span></font></span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>IP JUSTICE</div><div>Robin Gross, Executive Director</div><div>1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA</div><div>p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451</div><div>w: <a href="http://www.ipjustice.org/">http://www.ipjustice.org</a> e: <a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
</div>
<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br><div>
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>IP JUSTICE</div><div>Robin Gross, Executive Director</div><div>1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA</div><div>p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451</div><div>w: <a href="http://www.ipjustice.org">http://www.ipjustice.org</a> e: <a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
</div>
<br></div></div></div></body></html>