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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=841515415-05102011>Here we go again. Yes, the Red Cross is a worthy
organization recognized by international treaties, various national
laws and is an NCSG member. I might be persuaded that it deserves
'protection.' I might ask why it deserves more protection that other
worthy organizations - say my local public broadcasting affiliate, or UNESCO or
the associations for the blind or ... I might take a different position on
the IOC.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=841515415-05102011>But I'll leave that debate to
others.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=841515415-05102011>What concerns me is that once again, we're only worried
about the rights of an organization and its trademark. There remains
no protection for or consideration of individual domain name holders.
These large organizations can take care of themselves. They have the
resources to hire attorneys, take action against "bad actors", and defend
themselves against inappropriate complaints. I certainly understand their
wish to minimize their costs by preemptively adjusting the rules to protect
themselves.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=841515415-05102011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=841515415-05102011>Where is the similar discussion about protection for
individuals? Families? Clubs of a few people? We can't rely on
trademarks, because as non-commercial entities, we can't get a trademark.
Even if we could afford one, trademarks by definition must be used in
*commerce*.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=841515415-05102011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=841515415-05102011>So why can't we focus some energy on protecting the
rest of the membership? I suggested .TFZ (trademark free zone) a while
back, but although there were no alternatives offered, the consensus was that
anything that could be seen as weakening a trademark anywhere was was
unacceptable to the members holding trademarks. So we seem to be focused
on (even only responsive to) trademark issues - albeit for "non-commercial"
holders.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=841515415-05102011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><SPAN
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=841515415-05102011>If all we're going to be is a niche in the trademark
wars, I don't see what NCSG is doing for me...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>I'd like to hear
from the candidates - what ideas do you have for protecting the domain name
interests of the non-trademark holding members? How can we reconcile the
trademark holders' interests, which are recognized in law, with the interests of
those who can't obtain trademarks for their uses and have no law to fall back
on? Surely we can come up with administrative/policy solutions - or even
advocate for appropriate law?</FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left></SPAN><SPAN class=841515415-05102011><FONT
color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial>I'd also like to see other members take an
interest in something other than how to tweak trademark-based rules... (And once
in a while, Whois privacy :-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>Timothe Litt<BR>ACM Distinguished
Engineer<BR>---------------------------------------------------------<BR>This
communication may not represent the ACM or my employer's views,<BR>if any, on
the matters discussed.<BR></FONT></SPAN></P></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> NCSG-Discuss
[mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Robin
Gross<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 04, 2011 19:26<BR><B>To:</B>
NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> [NCSG-Discuss] NCSG input on
request for special privileges for Red Cross & International Olympic
Committee regarding Internet domains<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>I would be curious to know what the NCSG membership thinks about this
proposal from GAC to give special privileges to the Red Cross and
International Olympic Committee in the top-level domain name space.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The GNSO Council will have to vote on this proposal soon, so some awareness
and input from the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group on the underlying issue
would be very helpful.<BR>
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<DIV>Thank you,</DIV>
<DIV>Robin Gross</DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium"><B>From: </B></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium">Glen de Saint Géry <<A
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium"><B>Date: </B></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium">September 19, 2011
11:07:42 AM PDT<BR></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium"><B>To: </B></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium">liaison6c <<A
href="mailto:liaison6c@gnso.icann.org">liaison6c@gnso.icann.org</A>><BR></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium"><B>Subject:
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica'; FONT-SIZE: medium"><B>[liaison6c] GAC advice:
1) possible UDRP 2) the IOC and Red Cross/Red
Crescent</B><BR></SPAN></DIV><BR><SPAN
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style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">FYI</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Dear
Councillors,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-US>The advice
provided by the GAC has been posted on page :<BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="http://gnso.icann.org/correspondence"><SPAN style="COLOR: windowtext"
lang=EN-US>http://gnso.icann.org/correspondence</SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-US>And can be
directly viewed at<BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="http://gnso.icann.org/correspondence/dryden-to-van-gelder-udrp-14sep11-en.pdf"><SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext"
lang=EN-US>http://gnso.icann.org/correspondence/dryden-to-van-gelder-udrp-14sep11-en.pdf</SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="http://gnso.icann.org/correspondence/dryden-to-van-gelder-red-cross-14sep11-en.pdf"><SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext"
lang=EN-US>http://gnso.icann.org/correspondence/dryden-to-van-gelder-red-cross-14sep11-en.pdf</SPAN></A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-US>Item 11 on
the GNSO Council agenda has been updated to read as
follows:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><B><U><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-US>Item 11:
June 20 Board resolution on new gTLDs (15
minutes)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></U></B></DIV>
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style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-US>As part of
its resolutions on the new gTLD program, the ICANN Board passed a resolved
clause during its June 20 meeting in Singapore which contained the following
excerpt (Resolved 1.b):<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-US>Refer to
Board June 20 2011 motion on new gTLDs:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-20jun11-en.htm"><SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext">http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-20jun11-en.htm</SPAN></A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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lang=EN-US>Incorporation of text concerning protection for specific requested
Red Cross and IOC names for the top level only during the initial application
round, until the GNSO and GAC develop policy advice based on the global public
interest.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-US>The GNSO
Council discussed this at its July 21 meeting. A letter was sent by Kurt Pritz
to Heather Dryden & Stéphane van Gelder to provide some
guidance:<BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="http://gnso.icann.org/correspondence/pritz-to-dryden-11aug11-en.pdf"><SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext"
lang=EN-US>http://gnso.icann.org/correspondence/pritz-to-dryden-11aug11-en.pdf</SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"
lang=EN-US><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-US>On
September 18, the GAC sent a letter to the GNSO Council providing advice on
this topic:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-US>GAC
advice:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="http://gnso.icann.org/correspondence/dryden-to-van-gelder-udrp-14sep11-en.pdf"><SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext" lang=EN-US>possible UDRP</SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN
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lang=EN-US><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-US>2)<SPAN
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><A
style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"
href="http://gnso.icann.org/correspondence/dryden-to-van-gelder-red-cross-14sep11-en.pdf"><SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext" lang=EN-US>the IOC and Red Cross/Red
Crescent</SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" lang=EN-US>The Council
should now discuss next steps and possible courses of action, starting with an
answer to the GAC.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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Discussion<BR>11.2 Next steps<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
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