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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=416031516-15082011>I'm concerned about the tone of many of these
complaints.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=416031516-15082011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=416031516-15082011>Avri made an incredible effort and did an excellent job
of communicating the procedures for the charter vote. Multiple posts to
this list, many personal e-mails.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=416031516-15082011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=416031516-15082011>Suggesting a recall from vacation is
inappropriate. Anyone who didn't keep track of the charter's
evolution, keep your e-mail address curent, confirm their status as an active
member and/or read the list/personal e-mails needs to consider whether (s)he has
discharged his/her responsibility as a member. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=416031516-15082011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=416031516-15082011>I hope that all active members vote. The charter
isn't perfect, but without one, we have no organization to improve. But
vote - for or against as your conscience dictates.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=416031516-15082011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=416031516-15082011>I hope that inactive members who can make the minimal
commitment of effort required to re-activate and follow/participate in the group
will do so. But you won't be able to vote on the
charter.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=416031516-15082011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=416031516-15082011>One thing that should be improved (I suggested this
when I "checked-in") is that there needs to be an accessible way to change our
e-mail addresses. I know I changed mine on the website, and the listserv -
and still got the checkin e-mail at an old address. I don't see why
the website can't be the the one-stop place to change/drive all the lists.
Or at least have a prominent article that descibes everything one needs to do to
update one's e-mail address. But if you're reading the list, you should
have seen the many posts about this vote weeks before the
deadlines.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=416031516-15082011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=416031516-15082011>I've seen the question about password and ballot number
several times. If you get the e-mail from <A
href="mailto:tally@icann">tally@icann</A>, these codes will be inside it.
The various samples haven't included them because they are unique for each
voter.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=416031516-15082011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=416031516-15082011>In any case, instead of looking for someone else to
blame, let's all learn from this that we each need to be responsible
members. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=416031516-15082011></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=416031516-15082011>Avri has my thanks for all the efforts made - I don't
see significant missed opportunities. I hope Avri has your thanks as
well.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>Timothe Litt<BR>ACM Distinguished
Engineer<BR>---------------------------------------------------------<BR>This
communication may not represent the ACM or my employer's views,<BR>if any, on
the matters discussed.</FONT></FONT><BR></P>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> NCSG-Discuss
[mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Alex
Gakuru<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 15, 2011 12:13<BR><B>To:</B>
NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: The charter adoption ballot
[PLEASE VOTE PLEASE VOTE PLEASE VOTE]<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>I propose that the NCSG recalls Avri from her holiday to help us
resolve emerging membership/voting issues.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 7:05 PM, DeeDee Halleck <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:deedeehalleck@gmail.com">deedeehalleck@gmail.com</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"
class=gmail_quote>The problem is that when I did not respond to the "check in"
I never received anything from <A href="mailto:tally@icann.org"
target=_blank>tally@icann.org</A>
<DIV><A href="mailto:tally@icann.org" target=_blank></A>I spend a good deal of
time looking for a tally message, but I realize that it was the check in I
needed. And when I just today responded to the original "check in"
message, I realize that Avri is on vacation.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>So how can I "check in" and get a ballot.</DIV>
<DIV>Moreover once I get a ballot (Avri sent a screen grab of one) what is the
password and ballot number?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I'm trying,</DIV>
<DIV>DeeDee
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=h5><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 11:52 AM, William Drake <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch"
target=_blank>william.drake@uzh.ch</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex"
class=gmail_quote>
<DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word">Hi Jorge<BR>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>On Aug 15, 2011, at 3:30 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote:</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN
style="TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Arial; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px">Now
that I'm back in my office and doing some research on the dates<BR>from
the original messages and your message, I found that it is more<BR>or less
the same time frame when I did some experiments with labels<BR>and started
playing with Google+ and had issues with gmail, on top of<BR>that, early
in August I started doing some email cleanup deleting<BR>folders and old
emails, so there is a high probability that I lost or<BR>missed an
important number of messages during that time frame.<BR><BR>Now it makes
more sense and I'm sorry I missed the check in request to<BR>contribute
another vote for the Charter :-(</SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Arial; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px"><BR></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Mail problems happen, and it's summer, which we knew would be an issue.
But a pity you're missing the charter vote; hopefully the forthcoming
election vote can be different.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Everyone, </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I hope the added caps in the subject line don't offend any
sensibilities, but an astonishingly large number of people have not voted
yet, including veteran NCUCers, designated organizational representatives,
current and former elected Council members, people we've nominated or put
onto working groups/review teams/Nomcom, and on and on…This is really
surprising and a serious problem. As the numbers Avri shared earlier
today indicate:</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Avri Doria wrote:</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN
style="TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Arial; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px">At
the last check, among those on the active member list who were sent
ballots<BR><BR><BR>- the reps of 7 large organizations have not yet
voted on the charter - 28 votes<BR><BR>- the reps of 10 small
organizations have not yet voted on the charter - 20 votes<BR><BR>-
23 individuals have not yet voted on the charter - 23
votes<BR><BR>That's 71 missing votes.<BR><BR>That is 71 votes effectively
against the new charter<BR><BR>That is a 45% vote against the charter.
</SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><SPAN
style="TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium Arial; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px"><BR></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>So a couple of years of hard work (re)drafting and (re)negotiating with
successive boards are in real danger of being wasted, which will be a
disaster for noncommercial interest representation in ICANN, commencing
quickly.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Instead of doing another round of a few of us having to spend time
trying to track members down bilaterally and send reminder pleas, can I
suggest an alternative? Please be proactive. If you are on the
list of Active Members <A
href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Active+Members"
target=_blank>https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Active+Members</A> and
you have not received a ballot from <A href="mailto:tally@icann.org"
target=_blank>tally@icann.org</A></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>1. Dig around in your account, spam filters, trash,
wherever </DIV>
<DIV>2. If you have a ballot, vote today, it takes three seconds</DIV>
<DIV>3. If you are really certain you did not receive the ballot,
please inform us here on the list ASAP. After a few days we can
compile the names and ask ICANN staff to resend it to you. They are
swamped too with Dakar planning et al but hopefully they can make that
happen.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Time is running out.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Bill</DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR clear=all>
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