Will governments pick this very angle to justify their <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">want of increased role i.e. to protect their consumer publics by amplifying "global public interest" that we have been shouting ourselves hoarse all the time? I don't know.      <br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Rosemary Sinclair <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Rosemary.Sinclair@atug.org.au">Rosemary.Sinclair@atug.org.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">



















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up role on Consumer Trust, Confidence and Choice look very silly …strategically!</span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Rosemary Sinclair</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"></span></font></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Managing Director, ATUG</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"></span></font></p>


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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">T: +61 2 94958901  F: +61
2 94193889</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Email: <a href="mailto:rosemary.sinclair@atug.org.au" target="_blank">rosemary.sinclair@atug.org.au</a></span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"></span></font></p>


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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Please visit the ATUG website
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> NCSG-NCUC
[mailto:<a href="mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Drake William<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, 7 February 2011 5:01
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> SPAM-LOW: GAC/Board
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">There's been previous mention on the list of the GAC-Board meeting in Brussels scheduled
for 28 Feb-1 March.  Everyone's been sort of in the dark about the
details, but today staff replied to the Council on a few aspects, see below.
 The growing role of governments presents some interesting challenges for
ICANN processes (one of the topics we'll discuss at the NCUC pre-conference
event in San Francisco
on March 11).  In addition to Kurt's answers below, the referenced update
that was posted on Feb. 2 provides important info.   Re: live public
attendance, ICANN's provided a full six days notice to RSVP from when the
update was quietly posted, and "those whose RSVPs are confirmed will need
to submit a copy of an airline ticket, hotel reservation or other indication of
their intent to attend in person."  Moreover, "Please note that
in addition to the open plenary sessions, smaller meetings focused on specific
issues may also take place and may be closed to non-participants. If they
occur, those in these smaller meetings will report on their work during
the open plenary sessions."  So should anyone make a quick decision to
attend, they'll need for their RSVP to be confirmed (hopefully automatic, but…)
and then to quickly provide proof of intent, and they won't be allowed into the
smaller break-outs where probably the real cards on the table discussions will
take place.  Transparency and accountability under the AoC…Oh, and
apparently the subject matter experts are just staff members...</span></font></p>

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government broadside on the Applicant Guidebook, particularly the censorship
and IPR elements, and the unseen positionings of governments that haven't been
so bold as to announce their objections yet, this should be a rather
interesting meeting.  Hope some NCSG people can attend, even if there's no
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Olive <<a href="mailto:david.olive@icann.org" target="_blank">david.olive@icann.org</a>></span></font>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;font-weight:bold">Date: </span></font></b></p></span><font size="4" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">February
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Van Gelder <<a href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com" target="_blank">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</a>>,
GNSO Council <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>></span></font>

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Dear Stephane and Council Members:<br>
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I consulted with Kurt Pritz on the questions raised by some Council<br>
members on the GAC/Board meeting in Brussels.<br>
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Here are answers to those questions.<br>
<br>
<br>
An update on the GAC/Board meeting<br>
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Kurt:  The Brussels
session is a Board/GAC discussion, where Board and GAC<br>
members will discuss differences, not a public consultation. The goal of<br>
the Brussels
meeting is to define clearly where the GAC and Board differ,<br>
and not to change guidelines or procedures.   The GAC identified
certain<br>
areas of differences, but without concrete or specific details.  The<br>
consultations are to explore further these topics, understand more of the<br>
details from the GAC, and try to seek ways to narrow the differences.<br>
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Output:<br>
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A report about the discussions will be issued. If there are any changes<br>
recommended that would differ from the GNSO decisions, they would be noted<br>
in this report.<br>
<br>
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Public Participation:<br>
<br>
Like at any Board/GAC sessions at ICANN public meetings, observers are<br>
welcome to listen to the discussion.  Following GAC procedures, the<br>
session will have streaming audio and transcription services<br>
(no translations.)  There is a February 2 update on the ICANN website with<br>
additional information, for those wishing to participate in person.<br>
Please refer to: <br>
<a href="http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-21jan11-en.htm" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-21jan11-en.htm</a><br>
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<br>
On others questions on how does the Board intend to draw the line between<br>
re-opening the issues and closing remaining specific concerns and subject<br>
matter experts.<br>
<br>
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Kurt:   That is a hard question, when to close debate on the new gTLD<br>
program.  The Board said there will be a public comment period.<br>
We will listen to those comments and if there is something novel or a new<br>
approach suggested, we would propose an amendment<br>
to the Guidebook.  We will take public comments up to the point when there<br>
is a Board decision on new gTLDS.  Do you have any ideas on how to end the<br>
discussion?<br>
<br>
<br>
Kurt:<br>
The subject matters experts are the ICANN staff members who have been<br>
handling these topics/issues.<br>
(The ICANN staff will present an introduction to the topics and the Board<br>
and GAC members will<br>
discuss them.)<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,      David<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
David A. Olive<br>
Vice President, Policy Development Support<br>
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)<br>
1101 New York Avenue, NW
- Suite 930 - Washington, D.C.    20005<br>
Office: 202.570.7126      Mobile:  202.341.3611<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2/5/11 3:23 AM, "Stéphane Van Gelder"
<<a href="mailto:stephane.vangelder@indom.com" target="_blank">stephane.vangelder@indom.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
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