<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"><span style="line-height: 115%; color: black;">Dear Dwi,</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<font size="2"><span style="line-height: 115%; color: black;"><br></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"><span style="line-height: 115%; color: black;">Many
aspects of Internet Governance do not lie within the mission of ICANN. <br></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"><span style="line-height: 115%; color: black;">For
instance, ICANN is not responsible for content on the Internet.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"><span style="line-height: 115%; color: black;">Protecting
our children from websites containing offensive or harmful content</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"><span style="line-height: 115%; color: black;"> is a concern
for all of society. Issues of content, though, are not within ICANN’s charter and
have nothing to do with the interconnectivity of single global Internet.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"><span style="line-height: 115%; color: black;">Propose
for controlling content through special top-level domains!? </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"><span style="line-height: 115%; color: black;">But
the laws defining what constitutes harmful or offensive content vary from <br></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"><span style="line-height: 115%; color: black;">country to country, and even within a country or a culture.</span></font></p>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:02 AM, Dwi Elfrida Martina S <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dwi.elfrida@depkominfo.go.id">dwi.elfrida@depkominfo.go.id</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Dear Caroline,<br>
<br>
I am totally agree with you. as woman I feel that my my identity, my<br>
pride, my price decrease to the lowest level, when I saw another woman<br>
explore their sexuality in internet.sometimes I feel that woman in the<br>
porn site is not different with animal, even animal can do better than<br>
human, animal still keep their sex activity in good order, keep it as<br>
intimacy and private right and never explore it through internet.<br>
<br>
nevertheless, when I say that I'll support .xxx as legal TLD for porn<br>
site, because I think it will be used as central for porn sites,so easier<br>
to control dissemination of pornography through internet.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Dwi<br>
<br>
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> Dear Nuno,<br>
><br>
><br>
> Maybe not, but I do think your views that one should not take a moral<br>
> stand on pornography or anything else are-<br>
><br>
> and you in all honesty allude to that- tainted by who you are, and<br>
> probably by the fact you're a man.<br>
><br>
><br>
> You don't feel it in your guts like I may, as a woman, that it<br>
> actually is a violation of the bill of rights the way women ( AND MEN<br>
> actually!)<br>
><br>
> are treated and portrayed in pornographic material and the impact<br>
> such material has on those viewing it,<br>
><br>
> especially those with psychological difficulties, not to mention kids!<br>
><br>
><br>
> At some point, not seeing it as a problem that this material is<br>
> freely accessible to anyone in the name of ' moral neutrality' is<br>
> equal to<br>
><br>
> endorsing free access to this controversial material.<br>
><br>
> > Pretending domain names do NOT have a moral, political and<br>
> sociological impact is akin to digging your head in the sand.<br>
><br>
> > Pretending education will suffice to offset this unlimited freedom<br>
> of publishing online material is naive.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Otherwise why not give us all guns to defend ourselves, just in<br>
> case, and just educate us all NOT to use them to kill<br>
><br>
> those we dont get along with?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I feel there should be a .xxx extension, and that all porn should be<br>
> made to use that and only that, by law,<br>
><br>
> just the way this material is not accessible to all in the physical<br>
> world.<br>
><br>
> Make the techies make that possible, dont let them tell us it's not "<br>
> technically feasible" just because they dont care about<br>
><br>
> controling access to it.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Best'<br>
><br>
> Caroline<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Le 14 janv. 11 à 10:49, Nuno Garcia a écrit :<br>
><br>
>> I hope that in the end I do not sound like a Hulstler or Playboy<br>
>> stockholder or subscriber (I am neither of these), but this is<br>
>> really what I believe in, and probably my opinion is relevant for<br>
>> the mailing list.<br>
>><br>
>> On 14 January 2011 03:00, Dwi Elfrida Martina S<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:dwi.elfrida@depkominfo.go.id">dwi.elfrida@depkominfo.go.id</a>> wrote:<br>
>> hi rudy,<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> (snipped)<br>
>><br>
>> I agree with you, there is no country who already TOTALLY success<br>
>> to do<br>
>> process 'filter'. But, still we have to do our best to place<br>
>> "pornography"<br>
>> in good order, means there is certain regulation, term & condition.<br>
>> so, we<br>
>> can protect country from decreasing of morality:)<br>
>><br>
>> As I think we have made clear from previous statements, Morality<br>
>> (as well as public order) ARE NOT an issue that concerns this<br>
>> constituency and these considerations should therefore be left out<br>
>> of discussion and encouraged to be left of all the discussions in<br>
>> ICANN.<br>
>><br>
>> (long parenthesis: I'm sure Dwi was formulating a wish for its own<br>
>> country, and it this case, it's perfectly ok to do so. I must<br>
>> recall the list that Morality is an extremelly complex issue, much<br>
>> more than paedophilia, which is generally defined as crime in most<br>
>> western and southern countries, but, in contrast, it is indulged by<br>
>> some other countries (e.g. asian), and was not at all a crime<br>
>> before 1950 in most of the countries I know. When these issues dig<br>
>> deep in our cultural backgrounds and in our religious or belief<br>
>> points of view, it is best to rely on the system of values that we<br>
>> know is transversal to all Mankind and are best described in the<br>
>> Charter for Human Rights, that I think best summarizes the values<br>
>> we must guide for. End of long parenthesis.)<br>
>><br>
>> In conclusion, and having the Charter for Human Rights as a working<br>
>> bench, I say that the arguments for discussing this or that issue<br>
>> (but not for the .XXX which is long due), should never be issues on<br>
>> liberty, or censorship, let alone competencies or policies for<br>
>> governments.<br>
>><br>
>> We, as an informed and knowledgeable community, must put forward<br>
>> our opinions having in view the larger and greater good of our<br>
>> fellow Internet users, oblivious to where they sit in working days<br>
>> or in holidays or in Holy days. All of us deserve an Internet that<br>
>> _does_ _not_ _limit_ our rights as persons and promotes the values<br>
>> engraved in the Charter for Human Rights.<br>
>><br>
>> We cannot say much regarding the different civilizational issues of<br>
>> different countries. For me, I know that in my country we still<br>
>> have a long way to go. But this is my belief, probably some of my<br>
>> fellow citizens do not agree with me, and therefore this is not an<br>
>> issue to discuss here.<br>
>><br>
>> I have the greatest of respects for all cultures, religions and<br>
>> civilizations, and I try hard to not let my personal beliefs to<br>
>> stand in the way of my professional beliefs, so I expect others to<br>
>> do the same.<br>
>><br>
>> Of course, I stand perfectly aware that, as Ortega y Gasset once<br>
>> said, I am myself and my circumstance, and thus my points of view<br>
>> will always be tainted by the fact that I was born and raised here.<br>
>><br>
>> So to conclude, for me the purpose of this constituency is not to<br>
>> place pornography or capitalism or comunism or _______ (fill in<br>
>> with you word of choice) into order.<br>
>><br>
>> It is to make sure that we provide ICANN with valueable and wise<br>
>> opinions. And we should do our best to do so. For our own good and<br>
>> the benefit of all mankind.<br>
>><br>
>> I leave you all with two thoughts, one from Ben Franklin who once<br>
>> said "He who gives up a liberty to achieve a temporary security<br>
>> deserves neither and will loose both" (and there are plenty of<br>
>> historical examples of this), and the other, from a greek<br>
>> philosopher whose name I cannot remember "the best way to prevent a<br>
>> damage to society is to educate the children".<br>
>><br>
>> With my personal and sincere excuses if my points of view have<br>
>> offended anyone (was not my intention), I wish you all a nice week<br>
>> end,<br>
>><br>
>> Nuno Garcia<br>
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