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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/12 Dwi Elfrida Martina S <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dwi.elfrida@depkominfo.go.id">dwi.elfrida@depkominfo.go.id</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Avri,<br>
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as I new member, so maybe I didn't get an agreement between NCSG members.<br>
Regarding to the Recommendation 6 Community Working Group, are you sure<br>
that NCSG support all ALAC's recommendation, including points:<br>
1. "Completely eliminate the term "morality and public order"? So it's<br>
mean NCSG possibility to support .XXX? can you share what is you or NCSG<br>
justification to support this recommendation?<br>
<br>
2."Deny national law as a sole criteria for objections based on these<br>
criteria".I red your opinion that ICANN should only accept international<br>
law as consideration. My question is Which international law? who are in<br>
charge to make international law? and how if there is no international law<br>
that regulate internet, or domain name matters?<br>
<br>
On the other hand, NCSG will support ALAC'S recommendation that stated<br>
"Require individual government objections to be made either through the<br>
Community Objections Process or through one of the ALAC and the GAC"<br>
<br>
I think this point is INCONSISTENT with both of recommendations above. As<br>
I know GAC is consists of Government representative of countries who have<br>
made engagement with ICANN. So, the Morality and Public order(MOPO)is<br>
reflection of individual government objection that sent through GAC.<br>
Besides, we can't support the ALAC's recommendation to deny national law,<br>
because law made by country who have sovereignty, means that sovereignty<br>
acknowledge by international constitution. Indeed, when law have signed<br>
and have declared to be applied, It is mean that law have approved by all<br>
parties in country, which are people and government. So, please don't to<br>
be easy to say your supporting for this recommendation.<br>
<br>
So, my opinion to members of NCSG, please WE HAVE TO ANALYZE deeply one by<br>
one of all ALAC's recommendations.Even, we have to have a reason or<br>
justification why we support that recommendation point by point.<br>
<br>
My regards,<br>
<br>
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Dwi Elfrida<br>
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Hi there,<br>
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> I've made a few suggested edits in the attached version. Just fleshed-out<br>
> more on the issue of the Independent Objector and clarified that our<br>
> support for the ALAC statement was support for the concerns raised by<br>
> ALAC. (As I recall, we diverged on the conclusion: ALAC said "don't go<br>
> forward" and we said "fix it and go forward")<br>
> <a href="http://forum.icann.org/lists/5gtld-guide/msg00099.html" target="_blank">http://forum.icann.org/lists/5gtld-guide/msg00099.html</a><br>
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> Thanks,<br>
> Robin<br>
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</div><div class="im">> On Jan 10, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Konstantinos Komaitis wrote:<br>
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>> Dear all,<br>
>><br>
>> Please see the email from Mary below regarding Recommendation 6 -<br>
>> Morality and Public order objections.<br>
>><br>
>> Best<br>
>><br>
>> KK<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Dr. Konstantinos Komaitis,<br>
>> Lecturer in Law,<br>
>> NCUC Chair,<br>
>> University of Strathclyde,<br>
>> The Lord Hope Building,<br>
>> 141 St. James Road,<br>
>> Glasgow, G4 0LT,<br>
>> UK<br>
>> tel: +44 (0)141 548 4306<br>
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<div class="im">>> email: <a href="mailto:k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk">k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk</a><br>
>> <a href="http://www.komaitis.org" target="_blank">http://www.komaitis.org</a><br>
>> Book: <a href="http://www.routledge.com/books/details/9780415477765/" target="_blank">http://www.routledge.com/books/details/9780415477765/</a><br>
>><br>
>> ------ Forwarded Message<br>
>> From: Konstantinos Komaitis <<a href="mailto:k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk">k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk</a>><br>
>> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:35:32 +0000<br>
</div>>> To: Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu">Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu</a>>, <<a href="mailto:NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>>,<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">>> <<a href="mailto:ncsg-policy@n4c.eu">ncsg-policy@n4c.eu</a>><br>
>> Conversation: [ncsg-policy] Draft NCSG comments to GNSO Council on Rec 6<br>
>> Subject: Re: [ncsg-policy] Draft NCSG comments to GNSO Council on Rec 6<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Dear Mary,<br>
>><br>
>> Thank you very much for taking the lead in drafting this statement. I<br>
>> have added a small bit on the 'incitement and instigation' section,<br>
>> seeking to clarify the importance of raising the bar of such objections.<br>
>> I am attaching the amended version and I fully support this statement.<br>
>><br>
>> Again thank you very much for drafting this.<br>
>><br>
>> Best<br>
>><br>
>> KK<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 10/01/2011 18:56, "Mary Wong" <<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu">Mary.Wong@law.unh.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hello everyone,<br>
>><br>
>> As you may recall, NCSG members participated actively in the<br>
>> cross-community working group (CWG) that made certain recommendations<br>
>> regarding what was formerly termed the "morality & public order"<br>
>> objection process. At the Cartagena meeting, the ICANN Board and the<br>
>> GNSO Council requested further clarity and comment from the CWG and each<br>
>> Stakeholder Group (SG), respectively.<br>
>><br>
>> The CWG has since submitted its response to the Board, and the Council<br>
>> is due to consider comments from SGs shortly. As such, attached is a<br>
>> rough attempt at providing the Council with the requested input.<br>
>><br>
>> I apologize for the short notice, but as the next Council meeting is<br>
>> scheduled for 13 January, I'd appreciate any major changes or<br>
>> indications of non-support be sent to the list as soon as possible, e.g.<br>
>> within the next 24 hours.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks and cheers<br>
>> Mary<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Mary W S Wong<br>
>> Professor of Law<br>
>> Chair, Graduate IP Programs<br>
>> UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW Two White Street Concord, NH<br>
>> 03301 USA Email: <a href="mailto:mary.wong@law.unh.edu">mary.wong@law.unh.edu</a> Phone: 1-603-513-5143 Webpage:<br>
>> <a href="http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php" target="_blank">http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php</a> Selected writings available on<br>
>> the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at:<br>
>> <a href="http://ssrn.com/author=437584" target="_blank">http://ssrn.com/author=437584</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> As of August 30, 2010, Franklin Pierce Law Center has affiliated with<br>
>> the University of New Hampshire and is now known as the University of<br>
>> New Hampshire School of Law. Please note that all email addresses have<br>
>> changed and now follow the convention: <a href="mailto:firstname.lastname@law.unh.edu">firstname.lastname@law.unh.edu</a>.<br>
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>> ------ End of Forwarded Message<br>
>> <NCSG COMMENTS TO THE GNSO COUNCIL ON THE RECOMMENDATION 6 CROSS.DOCX><br>
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