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    I think Mary's points are valid, and i will just add: go team! <br>
    Thx Robin, Mary, Milton and everyone else who worked on this.<br>
    <br>
    Nicolas<br>
    <br>
    On 12/10/2010 11:56 AM, Mary Wong wrote:
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      <div>In principle and substance, yes - but I would feel more
        comfortable, and believe it would be more effective, if the
        references to ICANN staff (e.g. "as claimed by staff") were
        removed or at least reduced. Similarly, I would suggest
        rewording the point about the "company who provides the expert
        advice is also hired by ICANN" to something along the lines of
        "the third party contracted to select the experts who will
        determine the objection".</div>
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      <div>Cheers</div>
      <div>Mary<br>
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        <div><strong><font color="#800080">Mary W S Wong</font></strong></div>
        <div><em>Professor of Law</em></div>
        <div><em>Chair, Graduate IP Programs</em></div>
        <address>UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW</address>
        <address>Two White Street</address>
        <address>Concord, NH 03301</address>
        <address>USA</address>
        <address>Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:mary.wong@law.unh.edu">mary.wong@law.unh.edu</a></address>
        <address>Phone: 1-603-513-5143</address>
        <address>Webpage: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php">http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php</a></address>
        <address>Selected writings available on the Social Science
          Research Network (SSRN) at: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://ssrn.com/author=437584">http://ssrn.com/author=437584</a></address>
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                      <td><strong>From: </strong></td>
                      <td>Drake William
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                      <td><strong>To:</strong></td>
                      <td><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu"><NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu></a></td>
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                      <td><strong>Date: </strong></td>
                      <td>12/10/2010 11:50 AM</td>
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                      <td><strong>Subject: </strong></td>
                      <td>Re: Draft Statement of NCUC on the Draft
                        Applicant Guidebook</td>
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                Sure
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                <div>Bill</div>
                <div><br>
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                    <div>On Dec 10, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Robin Gross
                      wrote:</div>
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                      <div style="word-wrap: break-word;">Here's the
                        draft NCUC statement on the DAG and new gtlds.
                         Please let me know if you support it's
                        submission.<br>
                        <br>
                        Thanks! <br>
                        <br>
                        Robin<br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        Draft Statement of NCUC on the Draft Applicant
                        Guidebook<br>
                        <br>
                        NCUC supports the prompt introduction of new
                        gTLDs, yet we are deeply concerned about a
                        number of implementation proposals in the latest
                        Draft Applicant Guidebook, however believe they
                        can be fixed and the new TLD process can move
                        forward.<br>
                        <br>
                        In particular, we are concerned that the
                        Independent Objector (IO) process is ripe for
                        abuse and harmful to the public interest. The IO
                        was a staff created policy that was never
                        discussed let alone approved by the GNSO.  We
                        believe that it is entirely illogical that there
                        can be a TLD that no community, religion,
                        government, company, trademark holder, or
                        individual in the world actually objects to –
                        yet is “something we all agree is objectionable”
                        as claimed by staff.<br>
                        <br>
                        Important safeguards to prevent abuse and
                        “gaming” are lacking from the IO, as envisioned
                        by staff.  For example, there is no requirement
                        that an objection brought by the IO be tied to
                        at least one specific party who claims it will
                        be harmed if the TLD goes forward.  Such a
                        requirement is necessary to achieve
                        accountability in the new TLD process.  <br>
                        <br>
                        Another feature missing from staff’s version of
                        an IO is transparency.  ICANN staff has stated a
                        number of times that the IO is intended to
                        provide a secret means for governments to object
                        to a TLD string without having to do so
                        publicly.  For a public governance organization
                        with transparency requirements, such a proposal
                        for secret objections cannot stand.  If there
                        must be an IO, actual objectors must come
                        forward and be transparent about their role to
                        prevent the new TLD. <br>
                        <br>
                        According the staff memo on so-called Morality
                        and Public Order objections, one of the purposes
                        of the IO is “risk mitigation” to ICANN (i.e. a
                        forum to quietly kill controversial TLDs to
                        ward-off ICANN’s ability to be sued in courts of
                        law).  We do not support staff’s introduction of
                        “risk mitigation strategy” as ICANN’s primary
                        policy objective.  As always, the global public
                        interest with respect to the DNS is ICANN’s
                        primary obligation, not ICANN’s own corporate
                        interest.<br>
                        <br>
                        As designed by staff, the IO lacks true
                        independence.  The IO is employed by ICANN;
                        likewise the company who provides the expert
                        advice is also hired by ICANN, so there is a
                        lack of neutrality on the part of the expert
                        panel since they have an incentive to agree with
                        the IO (ICANN) who hired it when they handle
                        matters brought by the IO. <br>
                        <br>
                        On the issue of trademarks in the latest DAG, we
                        are troubled by the elimination of sufficient
                        time in which to respond to URS complaints in
                        the latest DAG.  Re-working the negotiated
                        community consensus from 21 to 14 days as a
                        timeframe in which to respond is concerning as
                        it provides inadequate protection to
                        registrants, who may be on holidays and unable
                        to find an attorney and respond in a reasonable
                        period of time.<br>
                        <br>
                        We share the concerns expressed in the At-Large
                        Statement on Draft Applicant Guidebook.
                         However, we believe the best course of action
                        is to make the appropriate fixes to the policy
                        to protect the global public interest and go
                        forward with new TLDs in an expeditious manner.<br>
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                        IP JUSTICE<br>
                        Robin Gross, Executive Director<br>
                        1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117
                         USA<br>
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                            <div>Robin Gross, Executive Director</div>
                            <div>1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 
                              94117  USA</div>
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