I am just wondering, do these domains appear seized to you at this time? Torrent-finder is working fine here (in Portugal).<div><br></div><div>BR,</div><div>Nuno Garcia<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 November 2010 13:25, Marc Rotenberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rotenberg@epic.org">rotenberg@epic.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">According to the New York York Times, it was the Dept of<br>
Homeland Security (the same agency that brought us<br>
airport body scanners) that seized the BitTorrent site and others.<br>
This seems odd since it is the US Dept of Justice that would<br>
typically investigate copyright matters.<br>
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Note also that this action took place prior to Senate action<br>
on COICA.<br>
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Marc Rotenberg<br>
EPIC<br>
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<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/27/technology/27torrent.html" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/27/technology/27torrent.html</a><br>
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U.S. Shuts Down Web Sites in Piracy Crackdown<br>
By BEN SISARIO<br>
Published: November 26, 2010<br>
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In what appears to be the latest phase of a far-reaching federal<br>
crackdown on online piracy of music and movies, the Web addresses of<br>
a number of sites that facilitate illegal file-sharing were seized<br>
this week by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, a division of the<br>
Department of Homeland Security.<br>
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By Friday morning, visiting the addresses of a handful of sites that<br>
either hosted unauthorized copies of films and music or allowed<br>
users to search for them elsewhere on the Internet produced a notice<br>
that said, in part: “This domain name has been seized by ICE —<br>
Homeland Security Investigations, pursuant to a seizure warrant<br>
issued by a United States District Court.”<br>
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On Nov 27, 2010, at 1:57 AM, Alex Gakuru wrote:<br>
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> Does this mean *all* search engines with links will be shut down<br>
> anytime, including 'Big G'?<br>
><br>
> On 11/27/10, Alex Gakuru <<a href="mailto:gakuru@gmail.com">gakuru@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Why complained earlier on expectations that cash strapped ccTLDs especially<br>
>> in Africa/developing cannot afford parallel servers, databases and time<br>
>> costs to enforce third parties IP/copyrights/trademark etc interests. It<br>
>> somehow 'feels' safer NOT to register a .com now?<br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> The latest info that I've seen is that Verisign assigned new DNS servers<br>
>>> at the Registry level, and then locked the domain so that even the<br>
>>> Registrar<br>
>>> can't update it. So now it looks like it may have been VeriSign who<br>
>>> "seized" them. No word on ICANN's role in this situation, if any.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Nov 26, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Marc Perkel wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> So was it ICANN that actually did the seizing?<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 11/26/2010 7:25 PM, Michael Haffely wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> The concerning part about the report from today is that the domain owner<br>
>>> never received any complaint or due process before the domains were<br>
>>> seized.<br>
>>> It appears that no Cease and Desist, warrant, suit, or other criminal<br>
>>> complaint was brought up before the domain was taken. What if (for an<br>
>>> example) this behavior is taken up by the Patent and Copyright "trolls".<br>
>>> What happens to an individual/nonprofit/organization when they have their<br>
>>> domain yanked out from under them?<br>
>>><br>
>>> If ICANN is to seize domains from their rightful owners by demand of a<br>
>>> law<br>
>>> enforcement agency we need to have a clear, *rapid* appeals process to<br>
>>> prevent abuse by corporations, law enforcement agencies, and governments.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> -Mike H.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Andrew A. Adams <<a href="mailto:aaa@meiji.ac.jp">aaa@meiji.ac.jp</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Very similar moves are happening in the UK, with Nominet (UK non-profit<br>
>>>> with<br>
>>>> the .uk (and .gb) country-code delegation) engaging with the UK's SOCA<br>
>>>> (Serious and Organised Crime Agency *) to remove 1200 "sites engaged in<br>
>>>> selling counterfeit goods" recently and now doing a more explicit deal<br>
>>>> with<br>
>>>> the police to take down the DNS registration for sites "alleged to be<br>
>>>> involved in criminal activity".<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/25/nominet_crime/" target="_blank">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/25/nominet_crime/</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> (*) The SOCA is a rather dodgy organisation, IMHO. When it was set up<br>
>>>> the<br>
>>>> then home secrewtary made a big thing of it not being actually police<br>
>>>> and<br>
>>>> therefore not bound by the requirements that the police have to respect<br>
>>>> the<br>
>>>> human rights of citizens. THat's a recipe for a secret police operating<br>
>>>> extra-judicially and here we see exactly that kind of approach.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I am very worried by these kinds of moves. Zittrain's "The Future of the<br>
>>>> Internet" and Mueller's "Networks and States" concerns about censorship<br>
>>>> becoming the norm not the exception online seem to be coming true. While<br>
>>>> I'm<br>
>>>> not in favour of criminals having free reign, the trouble is that all<br>
>>>> the<br>
>>>> hard won freedoms such as due process, balance of rights, etc. seem to<br>
>>>> be<br>
>>>> being thrown out in the digital domain.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> Professor Andrew A Adams <a href="mailto:aaa@meiji.ac.jp">aaa@meiji.ac.jp</a><br>
>>>> Professor at Graduate School of Business Administration, and<br>
>>>> Deputy Director of the Centre for Business Information Ethics<br>
>>>> Meiji University, Tokyo, Japan <a href="http://www.a-cubed.info/" target="_blank">http://www.a-cubed.info/</a><br>
>>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> IP JUSTICE<br>
>>> Robin Gross, Executive Director<br>
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>>> p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451<br>
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>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> regards,<br>
>><br>
>> Alex Gakuru<br>
>> <a href="http://www.mwenyeji.com" target="_blank">http://www.mwenyeji.com</a><br>
>> Hosting, surprise yourself!<br>
>><br>
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> --<br>
> regards,<br>
><br>
> Alex Gakuru<br>
> <a href="http://www.mwenyeji.com" target="_blank">http://www.mwenyeji.com</a><br>
> Hosting, surprise yourself!<br>
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