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<body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue>Hi all<br/><br/>We are in middle of ferocious election campaign - voting 21 August - an example of the outside pressures!<br/><br/>Cheers<br/><br/>Rosemary<p>Sent from my BlackBerry® from Optus</p><hr/><div><b>From: </b> "Debra Hughes" <HughesDeb@USA.REDCROSS.ORG>
</div><div><b>Sender: </b> "NCSG-NCUC" <NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU>
</div><div><b>Date: </b>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:00:37 +1000</div><div><b>To: </b><NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU></div><div><b>ReplyTo: </b> <HughesDeb@USA.REDCROSS.ORG>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Excellent point,
Rafik. I suspect there are times when it is difficult for many of us to respond
to emails and requests within 48 hours! I would have preferred to get the
comment prepared sooner, but I was lucky to finish by this morning.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Debbie<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> NCSG-NCUC
[mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Rafik Dammak<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 12, 2010
2:50 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Endorsing American
Red Cross' Comments on VI Initial Report</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>first thanks to Debbie for her comments and keeping doing that,
we should undoubtedly follow her example :)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>honestly, I am becoming uncomfortable that we have every time
to deal with one-day-before-deadline-written comments and then being
pushed in policy committee to make quick decision, I understand that people who
volunteer to draft comment are really busy with their professional duties.
in order to allow our members to react, one week before deadline sounds
suitable and fair (anyway I am not blaming anybody about that, mea culpa as I
didn't make my homework of comments too).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I agree with third option . I understand that Milton's explanatory part
is appropriate for first option?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Rafik<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2010/8/13 Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The only problem with a "full" endorsement by NCSG is that it
might imply that Debbie's comments address the_only_ issues we care about as
NCSG. There are a broad range of other issues her comments don't address.<br>
<br>
We might solve this by attaching to our endorsement the following proviso:<br>
<br>
"The NSCG is deeply concerned about a number of issues raised by the VI
WG. Lacking the time to develop a more complete statement touching on all those
issues, we fully support the comments of the American Red Cross on the issue of
exceptions for Single-Registrant, Single-User TLD applications, and their
comments regarding criteria for an exceptions procedure."<br>
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--MM</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:<a href="mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>]
On Behalf<br>
> Of Avri Doria<br>
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:20 PM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS] Endorsing American Red Cross'
Comments<br>
> on VI Initial Report<br>
><br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> I believe the Policy-committee could make the decision to endorse if<br>
> they had a consensus, especially if no one on the public lists has<br>
> objections.<br>
><br>
> I am fine with being a signatory to your third option.<br>
><br>
> a.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 12 Aug 2010, at 12:11, Mary Wong wrote:<br>
><br>
> > I echo Avri's thanks, Debbie, and agree that NCSG should discuss<br>
> whether it can support and endorse the comments submitted by the Red<br>
> Cross.<br>
> ><br>
> > Speaking personally, I would be happy to.<br>
> ><br>
> > In view of the fact that today is the last day, I guess the group's<br>
> options are:<br>
> > - Endorse in full (if sufficient members can agree) as an SG<br>
> > - Endorse in part as an SG<br>
> > - Endorsement (either in full or in part) by a group of members<br>
> (starting with Avri, me and whoever else wants to sign on) identifying<br>
> ourselves as NCSG members (or as non-commercial interests)<br>
> > - No endorsement of any kind<br>
> ><br>
> > It may be that the third option would be the quickest and easiest.<br>
> ><br>
> > Cheers<br>
> > Mary<br>
> ><br>
> > Mary W S Wong<br>
> > Professor of Law & Chair, Graduate IP Programs<br>
> > Franklin Pierce Law Center<br>
> > Two White Street<br>
> > Concord, NH 03301<br>
> > USA<br>
> > Email: <a href="mailto:mwong@piercelaw.edu">mwong@piercelaw.edu</a><br>
> > Phone: 1-603-513-5143<br>
> > Webpage: <a href="http://www.piercelaw.edu/marywong/index.php"
target="_blank">http://www.piercelaw.edu/marywong/index.php</a><br>
> > Selected writings available on the Social Science Research Network<br>
> (SSRN) at: <a href="http://ssrn.com/author=437584" target="_blank">http://ssrn.com/author=437584</a><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > >>><br>
> > From: Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@LTU.SE">avri@LTU.SE</a>><br>
> > To: <<a href="mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu">NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu</a>><br>
> > Date: 8/12/2010 11:23 AM<br>
> > Subject: Re: American Red Cross' Comments on Initial
Report on<br>
> Vertical Integration Between Registrars and Registries<br>
> > On 12 Aug 2010, at 09:39, Debra Hughes wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > > <American Red Cross Comments to VI Report - 08122010.pdf><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Hi,<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks for writing and sending this. Having just read it, I am<br>
> wondering whether this is a comment that the NCSG would be willing to<br>
> endorse?<br>
> ><br>
> > Personally, and as a member of the VIWG, I ver much appreciate this<br>
> comment and do hope we can endorse it.<br>
> ><br>
> > Are any other comments in the offing?<br>
> ><br>
> > Today is the deadline.<br>
> ><br>
> > thanks<br>
> ><br>
> > a.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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