Dear all, I do not feel very comfortable with this line of emails - it is true that one reveals itself in small details. However, we must not judge a man on a single incident.<div><br></div><div>Please allow for the dust to settle, and then, judge the professional, not the air-passenger that may have been disturbed for some reason.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Anyway, I do not know enough of this issue to make an educated comment.</div><div><br></div><div>BR,</div><div><br></div><div>Nuno Garcia</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/7/29 Carlos A. Afonso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hey, dear Brian, relax! Do you really think Amodio and I are treating this as a laughing matter??<br>
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I do not think it is humor, actually -- I think it is ironic, heavily ironic. And is a way to stress the increasing dominance of the so-called "intelligence" apparatus (offense to the really intelligent) in the Icann system.<br>
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I mean, Icann organizes an "open" discussion on the unacceptable MAPO rules embedded in the DAG, and invites the dogs instead of their masters to the discussion -- FBI, Interpol etc instead of the policy makers and regulators who command these guys. This is obviously to the benefit of that part of the business community which wants everything to be easily traceable without recourse to Court. A police officer wants his job easier, and so do the IPR constituency. It is actually sad and infuriating, so we are not laughing at all despite the little icons.<br>
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On 07/29/2010 02:13 PM, Brian Drolet wrote:<br>
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While there is some humor in the Fowlie fiasco, stocking ICANN with police agents is a) not a laughing matter and b) part of the larger context of the militarization of governments and agencies throughout the world, particularly in the arenas of "unregulated" citizen communication and behavior. The debate on privacy vs security in the age of intensified government secrecy and "Total Information Awareness" is part of a much larger battle. For example, the Washington Post reported on July 29th: "The [Obama] administration wants to add just four words -- "electronic communication transactional records" -- to a list of items that the law says the FBI may demand without a judge's approval. Government lawyers say this category of information includes the addresses to which an Internet user sends e-mail; the times and dates e-mail was sent and received; and possibly a user's browser history." Of course Jane Lute, the Department of Homeland Security deputy secretary assured an audi<br>
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ence at the Black Hat conference this week that "she wants "to create a safe, secure, resilient place where we can thrive...The goal here is not control. It's confidence."<br>
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Brian Drolet<br>
Deep Dish TV<br>
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From: "Carlos A. Afonso"<<a href="mailto:ca@CAFONSO.CA" target="_blank">ca@CAFONSO.CA</a>><br>
Sent: Jul 29, 2010 11:03 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
Subject: Re: more news on ICANN Ombudsman Frank Fowlie's air rage incident& cover-up attempt<br>
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Well, re "liking" as a motivation, humans use to behave like this,<br>
especially in positions of power.<br>
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On 07/28/2010 09:23 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote:<br>
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What is it becoming? A new international law enforcement body overseen by<br>
the US gov?<br>
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We are watching the transformation of ICANN into KHAOS, somebody needs<br>
to call Maxwell Smart.<br>
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BTW since when "like" is a measure of performance ?<br>
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Regards<br>
Jorge<br>
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