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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'>The number of people interested in what ICANN does is
intrinsically a small portion of the politically active population. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'>The number of people interested in what ICANN does AND willing
to join a membership organization related to icann is a small portion of the
previous portion of the population. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'>The number of people interested in what ICANN does AND willing
to join a membership organization related to icann AND willing to vote or
otherwise participate in specific processes is a small portion of previous portion
of the population.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'>The number of people interested in and capable of using all this
effort to make decisions and administer policies are an even smaller bunch (and
may or may not be drawn from the previous population).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><repeat as necessary> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'>Bottom line of this cascade: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:#1F497D'>I agree with Bill, too. We need to cultivate the people we have.
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NCSG-NCUC
[mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rafik Dammak<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 24, 2010 3:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS] Welcoming a new NCSG member<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I totally agree with Bill, I think for outreach we are
doing well and we can continue on that, but I think that having more
people participating in WGs, making public comments and drafting NCSG
statements is urgent.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Rafik<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>2010/5/24 William Drake <<a
href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Hi<br>
<br>
I'm on the board of EURALO, a chunk of which (not me, thankfully) spent a great
deal of time going back and forth with staff on the production and distribution
of a single sheet fold-over brochure. After a rather protracted process,
a few folks have now started to drag stacks around to meetings like EuroDIG,
and perhaps this will ultimately lead to some new ALS applications, but one
does have to wonder whether this kind of old school outreach was worth the
effort that went into it relative to other work. In the meanwhile, NCUC
grew enormously over the past year or so largely through Robin's online
outreach.<br>
<br>
Our immediate problem isn't to draw in more folks, but rather to consolidate
and more fully engage the ones we already have, in the first instance on the
charter vote. If we can meet the threshold and get the charter passed
ASAP, then sure our media team <a href="http://ncdnhc.org/group/mediateam"
target="_blank">http://ncdnhc.org/group/mediateam</a> could explore a leaflet
as part of its strategy. But I wouldn't let a piece of paper distract the
whole group from the pressing task at hand.<br>
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Two cents,<br>
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Bill<o:p></o:p></p>
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On May 24, 2010, at 4:34 AM, Joly MacFie wrote:<br>
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> What shocked me in the NARALO process is that - given a long drawn<br>
> out, and presumably costly at their end, design process - when asked<br>
> how many they would print ICANN staff responded as few as possible,<br>
> suggesting 100 or so would suffice. I would have thought a run of 5000<br>
> or so would be in order, just to punt some out to every ALS etc. to<br>
> give out at meetings, but they are just thinking Brussels.<br>
><br>
> Similarly, I would think in our case. I like the idea of doing<br>
> something like <a href="http://kickstarter.com" target="_blank">http://kickstarter.com</a>
where everyone pledges until a<br>
> sufficient amount is reached - altho I'm not fond of kickstarter's<br>
> Amazon payment scheme. If a 501c3 was needed as a fiscal sponsor that<br>
> US tax-deductible donations could be be made to I'd think ISOC-NY<br>
> would be willing.<br>
><br>
> 1-800-postcards charges ~ $250 for 500 brochures, there would be some<br>
> additional shipping.<br>
> <a
href="http://www.1800postcards.com/order/products/brochures.aspx?size=8.5x11"
target="_blank">http://www.1800postcards.com/order/products/brochures.aspx?size=8.5x11</a><br>
><br>
> The least that could be done is to design something that can posted as<br>
> a pdf and then printed at will.<br>
><br>
> joly<br>
><br>
> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Avri Doria <<a
href="mailto:avri@ltu.se">avri@ltu.se</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Hi,<br>
>><br>
>> We canot assume any help at all from ICANN.<br>
>><br>
>> But we can ask if that is what we want to do. Then again, once the
charter vote is complete and we know where we are going, that is one of the
reasons I finally want to get on track with the fundraising plans I have put
off because of the amount of work involved in the charter process. While
it is all well and good to look to ICANn for help, we need need to find a way
to fund our own needs, including pamphlets and getting members from developing
regions to the meeting so they can participate fully in the ICANN process.<br>
>><br>
>> a.<br>
>><br>
>> On 23 May 2010, at 18:19, Joly MacFie wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> It's a good idea.<br>
>>><br>
>>> The NARALO brochure, copy and overall design having been decided
by<br>
>>> members, is being designed and printed by ICANN. Can we assume
that<br>
>>> they would extend the same facility to NCSG?<br>
>>><br>
>>> We also used the ICANN Social Text wiki to do the design<br>
>>> collaboration. <a href="https://st.icann.org/" target="_blank">https://st.icann.org/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> j<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Fouad Bajwa <<a
href="mailto:fouadbajwa@gmail.com">fouadbajwa@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>> First welcoming on board AAMC and Amber to the
constituency in ICANN<br>
>>>> with a Soul ;o)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Secondly, this new addition just triggered the idea that it
would be<br>
>>>> viable to explore and contribute a NCSG brochure like a
bookmark on<br>
>>>> the lines of the ones we received around the ICANN meeting in
Nairobi<br>
>>>> for example, from NOMCOM, ALAC and separate for their regional<br>
>>>> organizations, about ICANN, about ccNSO etc.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> This small bookmarker like brochure with NCSG can share what
it is,<br>
>>>> its objectives and how to join the NCSG and its membership
level and a<br>
>>>> link to the website/email contact. This would be very useful
in<br>
>>>> raising awareness amongst ICANN participants especially the
new ones<br>
>>>> that add up to the ICANN community each year.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Its a start you know :o)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> -- Best<br>
>>>> Fouad<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Avri Doria <<a
href="mailto:avri@ltu.se">avri@ltu.se</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> Hi,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I am happy to announce that the Association of American
Medical Colleges has been accepted by the NCSG Executive Committee as an
organizational member of the NCSG.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> From their website <a href="http://www.aamc.org"
target="_blank">http://www.aamc.org</a>:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> The AAMC represents all 132 accredited U.S. and 17
accredited Canadian medical schools; approximately 400 major teaching hospitals
and health systems, including 68 Department of Veterans Affairs medical
centers; and nearly 90 academic and scientific societies. Through these
institutions and organizations, the AAMC represents 125,000 faculty members,
75,000 medical students, and 106,000 resident physicians.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Amber Sterling will be their primary representative to the
NCSG and has been added to this discussion list.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Welcome AAMC, Welcome Amber.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> a.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>>> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast<br>
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>>> <a href="http://pinstand.com" target="_blank">http://pinstand.com</a>
- <a href="http://punkcast.com" target="_blank">http://punkcast.com</a><br>
>>> Secretary - ISOC-NY - <a href="http://isoc-ny.org"
target="_blank">http://isoc-ny.org</a><br>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>>><br>
>><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------<br>
> Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast<br>
> WWWhatsup NYC - <a href="http://wwwhatsup.com" target="_blank">http://wwwhatsup.com</a><br>
> <a href="http://pinstand.com" target="_blank">http://pinstand.com</a> - <a
href="http://punkcast.com" target="_blank">http://punkcast.com</a><br>
> Secretary - ISOC-NY - <a href="http://isoc-ny.org" target="_blank">http://isoc-ny.org</a><br>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p>
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William J. Drake<br>
Senior Associate<br>
Centre for International Governance<br>
Graduate Institute of International and<br>
Development Studies<br>
Geneva, Switzerland<br>
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