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color:#1F497D'>I would agree with Milton here. The morality and public order
issue is something that we don’t want to touch and we certainly don’t want to
be the first ones to make reference between the .xxx and issues of morality and
public order. When the .xxx was shut down by ICANN it was based on morality and
public order, a justification that appeared to be enough to disregard a wide
range of other important issues that should have allowed the addition of the
.xxx domain into the Root. So for me, the .xxx has nothing to do with morality
and public order and – as already said – this issue should not even constitute
part of the new gTLD objection process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
Non-Commercial User Constituency [mailto:NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Mary Wong<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:45 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Proposed NCUC/NCSG comment on the ICM Registry case<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Yes, that was my
intention (apologies if it wasn't clear).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>How about changing
the sentence at issue, so as to read: "The Board's action with respect to
the IRP decision could be significant in potentially
influencing future decisions involving morality and public order
objections to new top level domains".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I also was not
suggesting we ought not to be proud of advocating civil liberties and free
speech protections; merely that from a drafting perspective I don't want
readers who may skim over comments such as ours to do the "eye
rolling" when they see the original phrase heading up that paragraph, such
as to miss the main points following.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Mary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:purple'>Mary W
S Wong</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Two White Street<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Concord, NH 03301<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Email: <a
href="mailto:mwong@piercelaw.edu">mwong@piercelaw.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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href="http://www.piercelaw.edu/marywong/index.php">http://www.piercelaw.edu/marywong/index.php</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Selected
writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: <a
href="http://ssrn.com/author=437584">http://ssrn.com/author=437584</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Re: Proposed
NCUC/NCSG comment on the ICM Registry case<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>Hi,<br>
<br>
I think you misunderstood the sentence.<br>
<br>
it does NOT say, they should base it on the new criteria.<br>
<br>
It says that rejecting it now WILL establish a bad standard for Future.<br>
<br>
which, if i understand is what you say is the message you want to convey.<br>
<br>
a.<br>
<br>
On 4 May 2010, at 15:39, Milton L Mueller wrote:<br>
<br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>> <br>
> <br>
> - "While a .xxx domain is undeniably controversial, ICANN must
guard against becoming a tool of those who wish to discourage or censor
certain kinds of legal content. The Board's action with respect to the IRP
decision will be potentially significant for future decisions involving
morality and public order objections for new top level domains. ICANN's
mandate to coordinate top level domain names cannot and should not become a
mechanism for content regulation or censorship." <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Yikes! This is exactly what we DON’T want to say. The board’s decision
on .xxx should be based on the process it established for the approval of
sTLDs back in 2004-5 and NOT on any retroactively-applied standards of
“morality and public order” that were defined precisely in order to censor
things like .xxx. If there is one big reason why handling of this IRP outcome
is not going the way it is supposed to, it is because the ICANN management
fears that “The Board's action with respect to the IRP decision will be potentially
significant for future decisions involving morality and public order
objections for new top level domains..”<br>
> <br>
> NCUC adamantly opposed the “morality and public order” provisions anyway
and most of us, if not all, believe they are illegitimate anyway. I believe
that that linkage does not and should not exist, and therefore the sentence
is factually wrong.<br>
> <br>
> Strike that sentence from Mary’s amendments and they are all acceptable
to me. I do, however, believe that we are, and should be proud to say we are,
“advocates of civil liberties and freedom of expression”.<br>
> <br>
> --MM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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