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color:#1F497D'>Dear Mary and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks for this. some comments below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>Best<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>KK<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Mary Wong [mailto:MWong@piercelaw.edu] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 01, 2010 6:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> NCUC-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu; Konstantinos Komaitis<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: NCUC-STI comments<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Hi
and sorry for chiming in late. Thanks to Konstantinos for providing a very
thorough set of comments; here are just a few minor observations:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>-
on p. 2 there is a sentence in bold that says "The very fact that the
registrant has responded automatically demonstrates good faith". I think
this is putting it too strongly - would it be better to say that the fact a
registrant responds can be an indicator of good faith?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>I am not sure I agree with you on this. What we are basically
doing is following the rationale of the UDRP and the interpretations that have
been provided through the UDRP decisions all these years. For UDRP panels, non
submission automatically equates to bad faith. If that is what is therefore happening
then why not considering submission as ‘good faith’?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>-
still on p. 2, I think the community may understand Default somewhat
differently, i.e. not as meaning only "failure to respond in a timely
manner", but more broadly as including failure to conform to requirements.
Can we not just say that it would be unfair to bump the dispute to Default
status simply for filing errors and omissions? Additionally, I would suggest
removing the phrase "which in any case are part of human nature" as I
don't think it necessarily strengthens the point already made.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>The community is mistaken and I don’t think that anyone
would view default like this, despite the efforts of the trademark community to
expand its interpretation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>-
still on p.2, in the following paragraph, when discussing the STI's decision
not to accept an expansive interpretation of "default", I suggest
that a more appropriate term than "wilfully dismissed" might be
"consciously rejected".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>-
on p. 3 I actually don't agree with the use of the phrase "safe
harbors" as it does not seem to me to accurately describe the
circumstances being considered. As such, I'm not sure I agree that using the
word "defense" instead is necessarily "weaker", and in the context
of this particular page of our comments seems to imply that by using the words
"safe harbor" rather than defense will therefore imply a
"binding legal obligation" on the Examiner. May I suggest saying,
instead, something along the lines of the need to ensure that a respondent's
right to demonstrate the registration is legitimate and in good faith? (I can't
recall the Nominet wording but I don't believe they actually use the phrase
"safe harbors" either.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>Mary we already have incorporated what you are suggesting. The
Safe Harbors are intended to provide additional protection to individual users
rather than limit this protection to just the possibility of domain name
holders to demonstrate rights and legitimate interests. In the law context, the
word defenses means that even if for instance there is fair use of the domain
name, the examiner will still be able to exercise discretion in deciding
whether to accept this defense or not. The word Safe Habors leaves no room for
such discretion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>-
on p. 5, instead of "trademark heavens" do we mean "trademark
havens"? (BTW, as some of you know, I am uncomfortable with distinguishing
between countries that conduct substantive review and those that don't, but can
accept that I am in a minority of one on this). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks for pointing this out and I will correct it. The paper is
not suggesting that we have to distinguish between jurisdictions that conduct substantive
review and those that don’t. There is a huge debate about this and even
the STI was split. Rather what it seeks to do is to draw the attention of the
community to the possibility that ‘trademark havens’ might be
created which will complicate things and create more problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>-
finally, and more substantively, can we add something (on p.3 when discussing
Abuse of Process) to urge the staff to develop, in consultation with the
community, clearer guidelines as to what is meant by "deliberate material
falsehood"?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sorry
I haven't had the bandwidth to do a more thorough job in contributing to the
comments, but I hope these observations help.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Mary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:purple'>Mary W S Wong</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Professor
of Law & Chair, Graduate IP Programs<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Franklin
Pierce Law Center<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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NH 03301<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a href="mailto:mwong@piercelaw.edu">mwong@piercelaw.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Selected
writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: <a
href="http://ssrn.com/author=437584">http://ssrn.com/author=437584</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Konstantinos
Komaitis <k.komaitis@STRATH.AC.UK><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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4:45 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText>Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>- apologies for the long email - <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>The time is upon us to submit our comments on the
revised versions of the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>ICANN staff on the recommendations submitted by the
Special Trademark Team<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>(STI) in January 2010. I know that I should have
submitted this to you earlier on, but may I remind everyone that the deadline
is April 1, 2020 for the submission of comments. I would appreciate if you
could return your comments/suggestions to me by tomorrow at the very latest.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Here is a brief reminder of the whole process. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>After the rejection of the Implementation
Recommendation Team (IRT)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>proposals during the public comment period, ICANN
produced two documents -<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>one of the Trademark Clearinghouse (TMC) and the other
on the Uniform Rapid<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Suspension (URS) system and asked the GNSO to form a
team to review these<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>documents. The GNSO created the STI, which comprised of
representatives from<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>all its constituencies. NCUC was represented in this
team by Robin, Kathy,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Wendy and myself, with Mary being the alternate member.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>The STI was tasked to either accept the Staff's
proposals or reach consensus<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>on a new set of proposals. After a month of extensive
meetings and debate, we managed to<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>produce two documents - one on the TMC and the other on
the URS - which in<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>their majority received the consensus of the STI (most
of the particular<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>issues of both proposals received unanimous consensus,
whilst some specific<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>issues received majority consensus). The final STI
report can be found here:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>gnso.icann.org/issues/sti/sti-wt-recommendations-11dec09-en.pdf<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>After the STI submitted its report and was endorsed by
the GNSO, a public<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>comment period was initiated -<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>http://forum.icann.org/lists/sti-report-2009/. In the
meantime, in its<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Nairobi meeting, the ICANN Board endorsed the STI's
recommendations:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-12mar10-en.htm.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Taking into account the public comments, the ICANN
staff produced - what<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>they called - a revised document on both proposals,
seeking to take into<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>consideration the STI recommendations as well as the
comments received<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>during the public comments period. These new revised
proposals can be found<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>at: for the TMC (
http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#tmc) and for the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>URS ( http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#urs) and
they are now open for<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>a public comments period. The deadline for submission
of the comments is<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>April 1, 2010.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Generally speaking the revised proposal takes into
consideration most of the<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>issues that the STI recommended. However, there are
some specific issues, in<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>which the new recommendations are worst and additions
have been made which<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>are arbitrary and - at some instances - even
illegitimate.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>I am attaching our comments for both the URS and the
TMC. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>Best<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText>KK<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>Dr. Konstantinos Komaitis,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>Law Lecturer,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>University of Strathclyde,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>The Law School,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>The Lord Hope Building,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>141 St. James Road,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>Glasgow, G4 0LT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>UK<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>tel: +44 (0)141 548 4306<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>http://www.routledgemedia.com/books/The-Current-State-of-Domain-Name-Regulation-isbn9780415477765</span><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:#1F497D'>Selected publications:
http://hq.ssrn.com/submissions/MyPapers.cfm?partid=501038<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Website: http://domainnamelaw.ning.com/</span><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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