<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Rafik<div><br></div><div>As I said, the agendas may not be entirely coterminous. But read Bruce Tonkin's explanatory messages to Rgy/Rgr folks on the council list, he says the board's broad language was an open call for suggestions in response to various people's (including our) expressions of concern about new gTLD pricing in Nairobi. The mandate of the proposed WG would be to respond to that, and while other options undoubtedly will be on the table, there's no reason why directly the addressing the problem could not be too, there's nothing agreed yet that makes it "only focused" on other responses. It's a matter of agenda setting on the charter and beyond, and while there'd undoubtedly be push back, there can be push forward as well.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div><div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 20, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Rafik Dammak wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Hello Bill,<div><br></div><div>to my understanding, the joint working group is only focused to look for funding approaches and support for applicants .</div><div>within NCSG/NCUC the discussion was more about pricing and to prove that is feasible and possible to run a registry fairly reaching all requirements in cheap way than expected by ICANN. that is why we want to learn from ccTLD experience.</div>
<div>in GNSO, I think that registrars and registries don't think that is possible, let us show to them that they are wrong :)</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
2010/3/21 William Drake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; position: static; z-index: auto; "><div style="word-wrap:break-word">A larger context that any NCUC/SG work on pricing etc could plug into, although the agendas my not be entirely coterminous<br>
<div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium">"Gomes, Chuck" <<a href="mailto:cgomes@verisign.com" target="_blank">cgomes@verisign.com</a>><br>
</span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium">March 19, 2010 12:10:36 PM GMT-03:00<br>
</span></div><div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium">"GNSO Council" <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
</span></div></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';font-size:medium"><b>[council] FW: Proposal to form a Joint ALAC - GNSO WG "to develop a sustainable approach to providing support to applicants requiring assistance in applying for and operating new gTLDs" in response to the ICANN Board Resolution 20 at the Nairobi Meeting</b><br>
</span></div><div><div></div><div><br>
<div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span>I will add the following item to our agenda for the
Council meeting on 1 April. It seems to me that it would be helpful to try
to form the joint community WG as soon as possible after our 1 April meeting and
task them with developing a proposed charter for the longer term work of the
group.</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span></span></font> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span>Thoughts?</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span></span></font> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span>Please inform your respective groups of this task that
was initiated by the Board in Nairobi and seek their input.</span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span></span></font> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span>Thanks, Chuck</span></font></div><br>
<div lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left">
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> Cheryl Langdon-Orr
[mailto:<a href="mailto:langdonorr@gmail.com" target="_blank">langdonorr@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 18, 2010 6:42
PM<br><b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck; <a href="mailto:alac-excom@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">alac-excom@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>; ICANN AtLarge
Staff; <a href="mailto:gtld-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">gtld-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Proposal to form a
Joint ALAC - GNSO WG "to develop a sustainable approach to providing support to
applicants requiring assistance in applying for and operating new gTLDs" in
response to the ICANN Board Resolution 20 at the Nairobi
Meeting<br></font><br></div>
<div></div>
<div><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial, sans-serif;border-collapse:collapse">
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2">To: Mr. Chuck
Gomes, </font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2">Chair of the
GNSO</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:small"><br></span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2">Regarding: Proposal
to form a Joint ALAC - GNSO WG "to develop a sustainable approach to
providing support to applicants requiring assistance in applying for and
operating new gTLDs" in response to the ICANN Board Resolution 20 at the
Nairobi Meeting.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2"><br></font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2">Chuck further to our
recent conversation on the matter of next steps in response to Board Resolution
20 (copied below) of the ICANN Board Meeting held March 12th in Nairobi, as this
matter has clear and important interest and ramifications to our SO and AC (the
matter of costs for developing countries and for some community based applicants
has been of continued concern to At-Large) I am writing to you as Chair of
the GNSO to formally request the GNSO's consideration of the ALAC and GNSO
forming a Joint WG to explore options regarding applicant assistance in the
application for and operation of new gTLDs, that may be required in some
exceptional circumstances, in response to this
resolution. </font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2"><br></font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2">This new gTLD Applicant
Assistance Program WG should be open to all stakeholders, and once formed, a
call to join this Joint WG as either participant or observer should go out to
all parts of ICANN. </font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2"><br></font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2">ALAC will if the
GNSO is in agreement formally propose the creation of this WG at our meeting of
March 23rd and look forward to feedback from you on how the GNSO wishes to
proceed with the WG's charter, administration etc., so that we can begin
activity in a timely manner to ensure a first report on WG activities can be
available at the Brussels Meeting and so that if we deem it appropriate that at
this meeting an opportunity can be taken for community consultation with a
workshop or similar activity.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2"><br></font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2">In advance of the GNSO's
formal response to this Joint WG proposal I will be adding this matter
to our Agenda of the 23rd and asking the ALAC's gtld-wg to consider how it
wishes to engage and integrate in this activity as either a committee of the
whole, with the formation of a topic specific Work Team and/or nomination of
specific representatives to this new WG. I will; also request that our
staff prepare a Wiki space/commons linked to the gtld-wg space where the
proposed Joint ALAC-GNSO-WG can operate and where the wider ICANN Community and
stakeholders can openly contribute. </font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:small"><br></span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" size="2"><br></font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial"><i><span style="font-size:x-small">Board resolution 20 in
Nairobi:</span></i></font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><i><span style="font-size:x-small"><font face="Arial"></font></span></i></span><i><span style="font-size:x-small"></span></i> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" size="2"><i><span style="font-size:x-small">"20. Support for Applicants Requesting New gTLD
Applicants</span></i><p><i><span style="font-size:x-small">Whereas, the
launch of the New gTLD Program will bring fundamental change to the marketplace,
including competition and innovation;</span></i></p><p><i><span style="font-size:x-small">Whereas, the
evolution of relationships and restrictions on relationships between registries
and registrars have been a center of discussion and analysis;</span></i></p><p><i><span style="font-size:x-small">Whereas, the
introduction of new gTLDs will bring change and opportunity for innovation, new
services and benefits for users and registrants;</span></i></p><p><i><span style="font-size:x-small">Whereas, ICANN
aims to ensure that the New gTLD Program is inclusive, along the lines of the
organization's strategic objectives;</span></i></p><p><i><span style="font-size:x-small">Whereas, ICANN has
a requirement to recover the costs of new gTLD applications and on-going
services to new gTLDs; and</span></i></p><p><i><span style="font-size:x-small">Whereas numerous
stakeholders have, on various occasions, expressed concern about the cost of
applying for new gTLDs, and suggested that these costs might hinder applicants
requiring assistance, especially those from developing countries.</span></i></p><p><i><span style="font-size:x-small">Resolved
(2010.03.12.46), the Board recognizes the importance of an inclusive New gTLD
Program.</span></i></p><p><i><span style="font-size:x-small">Resolved
(2010.03.12.47), the Board requests stakeholders to work through their SOs and
ACs, and form a Working Group to develop a sustainable approach to providing
support to applicants requiring assistance in applying for and operating new
gTLDs ."</span></i></p></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><i></i> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span style="font-size:small;font-family:arial;border-collapse:separate">CI </span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span style="font-size:small;font-family:arial;border-collapse:separate"><br></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span style="font-size:small;font-family:arial;border-collapse:separate">Kindest
regards,</span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span style="font-size:small;font-family:arial;border-collapse:separate">Cheryl
Langdon-Orr (CLO)</span></div></span></div>
<div>ALAC Chair 2007-2010<br><br></div></div>
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