Of course, I suppose that we all suggesting different issues for amalgamation then consideration if, which, how and who to raise them with Board..<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 4:02 PM, William Drake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">I didn't mean talk about interest groups out of the context of the larger framework, so we are on the same page.<div>
<br></div><div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><div><div>On Mar 6, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Arial;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="margin-left:3pt;margin-top:3pt;margin-right:3pt;margin-bottom:0.75pt">
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:3pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'Courier New';color:rgb(31, 73, 125)">I agree with Mary that you shouldn’t tag the agenda to something as narrow as SIGs. The NCSG charter progress is the key issue, and the Consumer constituency and IGs within NCSG can be covered within that framework.</span></p>
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<div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif"><span> </span>Non-Commercial User Constituency [mailto:<a href="mailto:NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>]<span> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span> </span></b>Mary Wong<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Saturday, March 06, 2010 7:30 AM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span><a href="mailto:NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] [ncsg-policy] NCSG mtg with the ICANN Board.</span></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:3pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif">
 </p><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif">While I agree that the consumer interest group (and broader relationship with the proposed consumers constituency) issue is important to us and should be discussed, I think the discussion should take place within the broader context of "where, when and how the Board sees the progress towards a final charter going".</span></div>
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</div><div><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif">In addition, we could (if time permits) engage the Board in other issues of some importance to our group and the non-commercial community, e.g. ensuring adequate representation on each of the AoC Review Teams and the difficulties/need for support (financial and staff) for even more outreach activities.</span></div>
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</td></tr></tbody></table><div style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0.0001pt">I agree - just the consumer agenda from me.<br><br>
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 3:09 PM, William Drake<br><<a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a>> wrote:<br><span style="font-size:10pt;color:black">> why not try to really draw them out on whether our interest group approach is really definitely ok and we can proceed, and if so the relevance to consumer etc<br>
><br>> On Mar 6, 2010, at 3:04 PM, Avri Doria wrote:<br>><br>>> Hi,<br>>><br>>> The Board has confirmed that they will meet with the NCSG during our Tuesday meeting from 11:15 - 12:15.<br>>><br>
>> They have asked whether we have any specific agenda items we can send them beforehand.<br>>><br>>> Suggestions?<br>>><br>>> thanks<br>>><br>>> a.<br>>><br>></span></div>
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