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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well, despite his mischaracterization of
our view, this is quite a remarkable concession – they are in effect conceding
that our arguments against the Constituency-Silo model are correct! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We can use this against him if we need to.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Non-Commercial
User Constituency [mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>William Drake<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, October 17, 2009
6:01 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NCUC-DISCUSS] "NCUC
opposes constituencies"</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Ay yi yi<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=4 face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:Helvetica;font-weight:bold'>From: </span></span></font></b><font
size=4 face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>William
Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch">william.drake@graduateinstitute.ch</a>></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=4 face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:Helvetica;font-weight:bold'>Date: </span></span></font></b><font
size=4 face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>October
17, 2009 11:57:43 AM GMT+02:00</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=4 face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:Helvetica;font-weight:bold'>To: </span></span></font></b><font
size=4 face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>Roberto
Gaetano <<a href="mailto:roberto@icann.org">roberto@icann.org</a>></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=4 face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:Helvetica;font-weight:bold'>Cc: </span></span></font></b><font
size=4 face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>At-Large
Worldwide <<a href="mailto:at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org">at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>,
ALAC Working List <<a href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org">alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=4 face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:Helvetica;font-weight:bold'>Subject: </span>Re: [At-Large]
"placeholder" reps not placeholders?</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hi Roberto,<br>
<br>
May I just correct once again one whopping bit of bad info, please.<br>
<br>
On Oct 17, 2009, at 8:16 AM, Roberto Gaetano wrote:<br>
<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Beau,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>By the way, is it true what I heard that the three newly<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>appointed GNSO people have now been hard-wired in to two-year<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>terms? I don't really see a constituency model working under<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>those circumstances. Who's going to join a constituency if<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>they have to wait two years to be able to directly elect a<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>representative? No consumer group I am aware of is going to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>want to do that.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I think that we will need to clarify many things in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Seoul</st1:place></st1:City>, one of which is<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>the reason for certain decisions of the SIC.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>For instance, the SIC has decided, after long discussion, not to have
an<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>automatic link between creation of a constituency and establishment of
a<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>seat in the Council. The reasons against this position include what you<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>correctly point out, i.e. that it will be more difficult to get
people's<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>interest if there's no immediate representation in terms of voting
rights.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>However, there are also reasons for taking this approach. One of these
is<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>that we have to avoid the "frivolous" creation of
constituencies for the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>simple purpose of getting a vote. A bit like create empty shells as<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>registrars to have a higher firing power for getting valuable names.
Another<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>observation is that in the "old" council it was exactly the
fact that the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>creation of a new constituency would have altered the voting balance
that de<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>facto prevented the creation of any new constituency in 10 years.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>But the main point for the SIC to maintain the concept of constituency,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>against the open opposition of NCUC, but to keep it without an
automatic<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><br>
NCUC is NOT and has NEVER been against the concept of constituencies, period.
I do not understand what the purpose would be in telling ALAC people
something about NCUC that is patently untrue, but it really does not facilitate
trust building and the collegial resolution of the issue. The charter NCUC
submitted, and which you set aside without comment, has an page of clear
language about the formation and operation of constituencies in Section 2.3. <a
href="http://gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/en/improvements/ncsg-petition-charter.pdf">http://gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/en/improvements/ncsg-petition-charter.pdf</a>
I would encourage you to read it if you have not. A few key bits of
note include:<br>
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*Constituencies are self-defined groupings of NCSG members organized around
some shared policy goals (e.g. consumer protection, privacy); shared identity
(e.g., region or country of origin, gender, language group); type of
organization (e.g., research networks, philanthropic foundations) – or any
other grouping principle that might affect members’ stance on domain names
policy.<br>
<br>
*There is no requirement that NCSG members join a constituency.<br>
<br>
*When at least 3 organizational members or at least 10 individual NCSG members
volunteer to join the Constituency on the public list within two months of the
publication of the notification of intent the prospective Constituency becomes
eligible to schedule a meeting (which can be either in person or online).<br>
<br>
*The eligible constituency holds a public meeting(s) to draft a charter and
appoint an official representative of the constituency. The meeting(s) can be
online but must be open to observation by the general public.<br>
<br>
*The proposed constituency charter is submitted to the NCSG Policy Committee
for ratification.<br>
<br>
*Once accepted by the PC the constituency application will be sent to the ICANN
Board for approval. The Board shall also serve as the vehicle for appeals to
NCSG decisions on the recognition of a constituency.<br>
<br>
*Constituencies have a right to: 1.<span class=apple-tab-span> </span>Place
one voting representative on the Policy Committee; 2.<span
class=apple-tab-span> </span>Delegate members to GNSO working groups and task
forces; 3.<span class=apple-tab-span> </span>Issue statements on GNSO
Policy Development Processes which are included in the<br>
official NCSG response, but marked as constituency positions, and not
necessarily the position of NCSG as a whole.<br>
<br>
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<br>
I do not know how this possibly can be characterized as opposition to the
concept of a constituency.<br>
<br>
The principal difference with the charter you've imposed on us, as we've
explained time and again, is that we do not think it wise to set up constituencies
as purely self-regarding silos that compete against each other for council
seats, recognition and influence, and thereby spend their time fighting and
jockeying for position rather than working together to advance noncommercial
public interest perspectives in ICANN. We think it is better for
constituencies to collaborate in an integrated community. Hence, we did
not think it sensible to hard wire council seats (which would get absurd if the
number of constituencies exceeds six, as it hopefully will...we're glad you
agreed on this), and instead suggested that GNSO Council Representatives be
elected directly by all NCSG members in an annual SG-wide vote. To secure
a council seat, a constituency on consumer protection, registrants, privacy,
gender, freedom of speech or whatever else would simply have to be a vibrant
group that puts forward a candidate and vision that others find persuasive.
Given that noncommercial people tend to share certain broad values and
priorities, I'm hard pressed to imagine that, for example, a solid consumer
constituency that actually comprises noncommercial actors and advocates for the
public interest would have a hard time getting support from people who care
about privacy, speech, and so on. So it'd be a matter of persuading
colleagues rather than having a birthright fiefdom within which one does one's
own thing and ignores everyone else.<br>
<br>
We understand that questions have been raised about voting formula and whether
it might make sense to put in place mechanisms to prevent the 'capture' of the
council, and we've said we're open to viable suggestions on that score.
Have yet to hear one. One might add that if NCUC's proposed charter had
been approved and constituency formation were made as easy as we'd hoped, the
NCUC itself would have ceased to exist, and those of our current 80
organizational and 87 individual members who wanted to off and form
constituencies on privacy, gender, or whatever else would have done so.
So there'd be no NCUC to be capturing anything in the first place.
In contrast, under the SIC charter, NCUC would be nuts to disband, inter
alia because it'd leave our members homeless, especially the individuals.
Hard to see how that would be good for ICANN.<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>voting power, against the obvious concerns of who wants to build new<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>constituencies, is the leit-motiv that has guided the whole process of
the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>review: move the focus away from the vote, which is by its nature
divisive,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>onto the consensus building process.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>New constituencies will not have the right to appoint their
"own"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>councillors, but will have the right to participate in WGs and other
policy<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>making processes and bodies, will have support from ICANN staff and<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>resources to self-organize, will be able to participate with their own<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>representatives in the Executive Committee of the NCSG, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>In simple words, what we have tried to do is to create a balance and<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>hopefully a possible way to coexist and, in time, to collaborate, for
all<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>the different components of the wide and diverse non-commercial internet<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>community. Somebody on this list has spoken about
"reconsideration" of the<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Board's decision. This is surely possible. But what I would propose is
to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>try to discuss and understand if what the SIC has proposed can work in<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>practice, although it is not going to be perfect for anybody, before<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>shooting it down and start all over again. This discussion is for me
one of<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>the main priorities, if not the first priority altogether, in <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Seoul</st1:place></st1:City>, which<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>as you all know will mark the end of my term as Director.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The ALAC and the NCUC are two big parts of this picture, the only
organized<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>bodies in ICANN so far (for non-commercial users), I personally think
that<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>the first step can be to have a joint discussion in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Seoul</st1:place></st1:City>. Bill's proposal<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>of meeting in an event that is not only work, but also social, goes in
this<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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Here we agree. And I think finding common ground will be a lot easier if
ALAC colleagues are not laboring under the false impression that NCUC somehow
wants to prevent them or other from forming constituencies, hence the above.
Our main concern has been that we first have an opportunity to work out a
final, non-divisive charter with the board, after which constituency launches
could begin in earnest. In contrast, launching constituencies under the
SIC charter would likely lock us into that framework and engender the very
fragmentation the meeting is intended to help overcome.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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Bill<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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