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Thanks to Bill for weighing in against this. I was surprised by the strong reaction of the IPC member who threatens to NOT vote unless she can vote in secret.<div><br></div><div>Now a Commercial Constituency member wants to keep all non-counselors silent during the weekend sessions in Seoul.</div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "> <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg07642.html">http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg07642.html</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div></div><div>Our members have not yet had an opportunity to dialogue on many of these issues: - they are new, Seoul will be their first meeting, etc. The idea that we must be kept silent and can only watch the counsel would be a terrible precedent to set for the new "reformed" GNSO. These meetings have been open and allowed for participation from any member of the GNSO before now, so I hope we don't move in the direction of silencing the community who is traveling to Seoul (most on their own dime) to work on these issues.</div><div><br></div><div>Robin</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 15, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Robin Gross wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">I noticed that on the <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/">GNSO Council email lis</a>t, the IP Constituency is calling for secret ballots for the chair/vice-chair positions on council.<div><br></div><div>That is really surprising to me considering how ICANN claims to be "open and transparent" in its activities. And it is a bit disturbing that elected representatives in a governance organization are afraid the public will know how they vote on an issue. I thought when a person is elected to represent a group of people on policy issues, those people have a right to know how their elected representatives are voting and handling that representation given to them by the public.</div><div><br></div><div>What part of open and transparent public governance does the IPC not understand?<br> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><div>Best,</div><div>Robin</div><div><br></div></span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>IP JUSTICE</div><div>Robin Gross, Executive Director</div><div>1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA</div><div>p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451</div><div>w: <a href="http://www.ipjustice.org">http://www.ipjustice.org</a> e: <a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br></div></blockquote></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>IP JUSTICE</div><div>Robin Gross, Executive Director</div><div>1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA</div><div>p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451</div><div>w: <a href="http://www.ipjustice.org">http://www.ipjustice.org</a> e: <a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br></div></body></html>