<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">It is indeed pretty heavy, which is why I suggested doing the constituency stuff first. Even so, if we are serious about filing something with the ombudsman etc, probably there won't be much time left to discuss the substantive policy issues. My suggestion would be to triage and put just the most immediately pressing bits---IRT and registrants rights----at the front of the line, anything else we do if there's time. FWIW I may have to leave early.<div><br></div><div>Bill<br><div><br><div><div>On Aug 7, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Arial; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div ocsi="x"><div dir="ltr"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" size="2">Wow.</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2">That agenda is a bit too full and heavy. I would propose that we focus exclusively on the GNSO restructruring issue and the response we plan to make to it. That in itself could fill two hours.</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma" size="2"></font> </div><div id="divRpF225094" style="direction: ltr; "><hr tabindex="-1"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Non-Commercial User Constituency [<a href="mailto:NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>] On Behalf Of Robin Gross [<a href="mailto:robin@IPJUSTICE.ORG">robin@IPJUSTICE.ORG</a>]<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, August 05, 2009 6:54 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[NCUC-DISCUSS] Draft Discussion Agenda for 11 August (Tuesday) NCUC Constituency Meeting<br></font><br></div><div></div><div>Dear all,<div><br></div><div>Below is the draft discussion agenda for this month's constituency call. I hope you will all try to join in the call - and please volunteer to take live meeting minutes. :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Robin</div><div><br><div class="MsoNormal"><b><u>11 AUGUST 2009 NCUC Monthly Constituency Meeting</u></b></div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><div class="MsoNormal">Scheduled for: Tuesday 11 August 2009 from 15:00 - 17:00 UTC</div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><div class="MsoNormal">To be held via Elluminate online meeting software.<span> </span></div><div class="MsoNormal">Join NCUC’s NING website to get link to participate in online meeting:</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://icann-ncuc.ning.com/main/authorization/signUp" target="_blank">http://icann-ncuc.ning.com/main/authorization/signUp</a>?</div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><div class="MsoNormal">Need volunteers to take running notes of meeting discussion please. </div><div class="MsoNormal"></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; "><u>Other Time Zones:</u></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">08:00 - 10:00 - California</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">11:00 - 13:00 - New York</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">12:00 - 14:00 - Sao Paulo</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">15:00 - 17:00 - UTC / Greenwich</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">16:00 -18:00 - London</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">17:00 - 19:00 - Geneva / Tunis</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">18:00 - 20:00 - Alexandria / Nairobi</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">19:30 - 21:30 - Tehran</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">22:00 - 24:00 - Phnom Pehn</div><div class="MsoNormal">23:00 - 01:00 - Singapore / Hong Kong</div><div class="MsoNormal">---------------------------------------------------</div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><div class="MsoNormal"><b>Draft Discussion Agenda</b></div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><div class="MsoNormal"><b><u>I.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Constituency Business</u></b></div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 12pt; ">1.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Membership Growth and Continued Membership Drive</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 12pt; "><span><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">NCUC's membership has reached<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font></span><span style="font-family: TrebuchetMS-Bold; "><a href="http://ncdnhc.org/page/membership-roster" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-decoration: none; "><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">137 members</font></span></a></span><span><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>from 48 different countries, including 72 noncommercial organizations and 65 individuals.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font><span><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"> </font></span><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000">This represents a 205% increase in membership since 2008.</font></span></p><div class="MsoNormal">2.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Join NING Website for NCUC policy development</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://icann-ncuc.ning.com/main/authorization/signUp" target="_blank">http://icann-ncuc.ning.com/main/authorization/signUp</a>?</div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><div class="MsoNormal">3.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Join an NCUC Committee or GNSO Working Group</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="http://ncdnhc.org/groups" target="_blank">http://ncdnhc.org/groups</a></div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 12pt; ">4.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Next NCUC Monthly Meeting: 22 September 2009 – “One Web Day”</p><div class="MsoNormal">5. Planning for next ICANN Meeting in Seoul, Korea 25 – 30 October 2009</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>a.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Outreach to local noncommercial groups</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>b.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Consider policy presentation / panel</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>c.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Meeting with ICANN Board in person</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>d.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Local press media outreach</div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><div class="MsoNormal">6.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Tragedy of the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG) Petition and How to Respond</div><div class="MsoNormal"><span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Reject ICANN drafted charter?<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Ask for reconsideration of board decision?</div><div class="MsoNormal"><b><u></u></b> </div><div class="MsoNormal"><b><u>II.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Substantive GNSO Policy Issues</u></b></div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><div class="MsoNormal">1.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>GNSO Structuring</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; text-indent: 0.5in; ">Proposed amended GNSO Bylaws Related to GNSO Restructuring</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; text-indent: 0.5in; ">Comment Period ends 24 August</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; text-indent: 0.5in; "><a href="http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/public-comment-200908.html#gnso-restructure" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/public-comment-200908.html#gnso-restructure</a></div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><div class="MsoNormal">2.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>New gtlds policy – Draft Applicant Guidebook</div><div class="MsoNormal">a.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>IRT Report response discussion</div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><div class="MsoNormal">3.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>“Vertical Integration” Issue & Registrar–Registry Separation</div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><div class="MsoNormal">4.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Registrant Rights Charter Working Group - We need volunteers</div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><div class="MsoNormal">5.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span> </span>Modification of UDRP Rules</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; text-indent: 0.5in; ">WIPO Proposal & Comment Period Ends 12 August</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; text-indent: 0.5in; "><a href="http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#udrp" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#udrp</a></div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><div class="MsoNormal">6.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Registration Abuse Working Group – We need volunteers</div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><div class="MsoNormal">7.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Institutional Confidence (Or Lack Thereof)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; text-indent: 0.5in; ">Proposed Bylaw changes to improve accountability - Comment Period ends 25 Sept.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; text-indent: 0.5in; "><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg07121.html" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg07121.html</a></div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><div class="MsoNormal">8.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Geographic Regions Initial Report Comment Period ends 4 Sept.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; text-indent: 0.5in; "><a href="http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#geo-regions-review" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/#geo-regions-review</a></div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 12pt; ">9.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Update on other GNSO teams (Fast Flux, Post-Expiration Domain Names, whois, IDNs, RAA) </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 12pt; ">10.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Any Other Business?</p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; "> =======================================</div><div class="MsoNormal"> </div><span class="Apple-style-span"><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><div><span class="Apple-style-span"><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>IP JUSTICE</div><div>Robin Gross, Executive Director</div><div>1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA</div><div>p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451</div><div>w:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.ipjustice.org" target="_blank">http://www.ipjustice.org</a> e: <a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br></div></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; 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