Good points. I'm not saying I support or am involved with this plan. Just letting people know that I have discovered its existence. Maybe it's worth letting those people know your concerns?<div>Best,</div><div>Rebecca<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Norbert Klein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nhklein@gmx.net">nhklein@gmx.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Thanks, Rebecca, for sharing this - but I have some problems with what is<br>
proposed:<br>
<div class="im"><br>
".ngo would be for charities only"<br>
<br>
</div>I am writing from Cambodia and I know that very often we are considered to be<br>
irrelevant by those who care for the "larger picture."<br>
<br>
There is a fierce debate going on in some circles here, that "NGOs should not<br>
get involved in anything else but charity work" - and they should not<br>
be "political" by talking about the environment (like Greenpeace? I usually<br>
ask), or talk "about what these NGOs call human rights which is just<br>
criticising the government to get international funding."<br>
<br>
A new, restrictive definition as "charities" may become part of the new NGO<br>
law under discusion.<br>
<br>
So why would the Internet community need a ".ngo for charities only"? It will<br>
only make our life more difficult, I am afraid.<br>
<br>
NGOs here use either domain names under the Cambodian ccTLD to show their<br>
Cambodian identiy, or they use .org - is that not the best solution also for<br>
the future?<br>
<br>
<br>
Norbert<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
> > From: Non-Commercial User Constituency [mailto:<a href="mailto:NCUC-">NCUC-</a><br>
> > <a href="mailto:DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>] On Behalf Of Rebecca MacKinnon<br>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 6:02 AM<br>
> > To: <a href="mailto:NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
> > Subject: [NCUC-DISCUSS] New domain name .ngo would be for charities only<br>
> ><br>
> > FYI, see article below. After the London consultation, Abraxas<br>
> > Partners and Verisign held an invitation-only seminar for people in<br>
> > the NGO sector who might want to consider applying to run a new gTLD.<br>
> > They also appear to be helping Article 25 to set up a new .ngo domain.<br>
> > Some of their materials - in PDF and PPT - attached. Not sure if this<br>
> > list-serv does attachments to copying to Robin for further forwarding.<br>
> ><br>
> > Best,<br>
> > Rebecca<br>
> ><br>
> > -----<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="http://thirdsector.co.uk/news/Article/922487/New-domain-name-ngo-" target="_blank">http://thirdsector.co.uk/news/Article/922487/New-domain-name-ngo-</a><br>
> > charities/<br>
> ><br>
> > New domain name .ngo would be for charities only<br>
> ><br>
> > By Kaye Wiggins, Third Sector Online, 23 July 2009<br>
> ><br>
> > Human rights charity Article 25 proposes internet scheme to be funded<br>
> > by philanthropists<br>
> ><br>
> > Human rights charity Article 25 has proposed a consortium of charities<br>
> > to run a new internet domain name that would be available only to<br>
> > not-for-profit groups.<br>
> ><br>
> > The charity wants the proposed consortium to raise $185,000 (£112,000)<br>
> > and bid for a .ngo domain because it says the .org address is open to<br>
> > abuse by fraudulent groups.<br>
><br>
> > Its suggestion follows an announcement from internet regulatory body<br>
> > Icann that from 2010 onwards any organisation will be allowed to bid<br>
> > to run new internet domains.<br>
> ><br>
> > Victoria Harris, chief executive of Article 25, toldThird Sector<br>
> > Online her organisation wanted to put together a consortium of<br>
> > charities that would ask philanthropists and corporate firms for<br>
> > funding to bid for and run the new domain.<br>
> ><br>
> > "Lack of regulation has meant that commercial entities, individuals<br>
> > and even professional criminals have been able to register websites<br>
> > with .org suffixes quite legally, with no check on their identities or<br>
> > intentions," she said.<br>
> ><br>
> > "In order to have a web address ending in .ngo, a group would have to<br>
> > prove to the consortium that it was a genuine charity. Once consumers<br>
> > realise that legitimate charitable organisations are regulated by the<br>
> > .ngo domain name, the battle against fraud will start to be won."<br>
> ><br>
> > Article 25 will hold meetings with interested charities and umbrella<br>
> > groups to discuss a framework for the scheme over the next few months.<br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Rebecca MacKinnon<br>
> > Open Society Fellow | Co-founder, GlobalVoicesOnline.org<br>
> > Assistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies Centre, University of<br>
> > Hong Kong<br>
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