<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">OMG! I'm shocked 'criticism as abuse' got so far into a proposal. It has to be knocked out as it does contradict well-established law and violate free expression rights. <div><br></div><div>And I also agree that the careless cease and desist and takedown notices sent by trademark holders using the whois data is another abuse. The Chilling Effects website is a complete catalogue of this type of abuse. I also thought that abuse needed to be added to this list.<div><br></div><div>It will be difficult for any single person to take on the IPC and BC and their dozens of (paid lobbyist) participants in this working group to get these points across with no other support. We need to populate this working group with more participants and we need to work with the registries and the registrars to bring this proposal back in line with the law. </div><div><br></div><div>Do we have any volunteers to join this group and help Edward fight for non-commercial interests in this policy's development?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>Robin<br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jun 18, 2009, at 12:20 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">Wow. I just noticed that the list of abuses contains “gripe/commentary” sites. In other words, this is an attempt to define free expression and commentary using trademarked names as an abuse – it is just an attempt to stifle criticism.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">Edward, that has to go. First, it does not represent well-established positions of this constituency; second it is literally ILLEGAL under<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region>law – it is well settled case law now that the use of trademarked names in grip domains is legal and protected by the First Amendment.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding-top: 0in; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 4pt; "><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align: center; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Non-Commercial User Constituency [mailto:<st1:personname w:st="on"><a href="mailto:NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a></st1:personname>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>Edward Nunes<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:16 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><st1:personname w:st="on"><a href="mailto:NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a></st1:personname><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] GNSO working group</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">Hey all,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">I just wanted to update you all on what's been happening with the Registration Abuse Policy Working Group.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">Since I joined the GNSO Registration Abuse Policies Working Group the discussion within the group has focused on the definition of registration abuse. During the April 27<sup>th</sup> meeting we decided on a working definition of abuse:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">Abuse is an action that:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">1. Causes actual and substantial harm, or is a material predicate of such harm, and<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">2. Is illegal or illegitimate, or is otherwise considered contrary to the intention and design of a stated legitimate purpose, if such purpose is disclosed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">Notes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">* This is a working definition as per group consensus on April 27, 2009 and may be re-visited should the WG find it inadequate after examining some specific examples.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">* The party or parties harmed, and the substance or severity of the abuse, should be identified and discussed in relation to a specific proposed abuse.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">* The term "harm" is not intended to shield a party from fair market competition.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; ">* The above definition of abuse is indebted to the definition of "misuse" in the document "Working Definitions for Key Terms that May be Used in Future WHOIS Studies" prepared by the GNSO Drafting Team [18 February 2009, at <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/whois-working-definitions-study-terms-18feb09.pdf" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/whois-working-definitions-study-terms-18feb09.pdf</a>].</span></font><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">While this is the definition we are sticking with for now, there has been numerous issued raised about this definition both in and outside the working group. Issues raised included:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; text-indent: -0.25in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Symbol"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol; color: black; "><span>·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">The use of “stated” and “disclosed in clause 2 is redundant.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; text-indent: -0.25in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Symbol"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol; color: black; "><span>·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">The use of “illegal” and “illegitimate” in clause 2 is redundant.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; text-indent: -0.25in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Symbol"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol; color: black; "><span>·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">There should be an intent requirement for violators, so as to limit abuse to malicious abusers.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; text-indent: -0.25in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Symbol"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol; color: black; "><span>·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">“Illegal” is too vague of a term, as the law varies among the jurisdictions of the world.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; text-indent: -0.25in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Symbol"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol; color: black; "><span>·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">“Harm” is too broad of a term.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; text-indent: -0.25in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Symbol"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol; color: black; "><span>·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">The section “material predicate of such harm” creates an overly broad definition of abuse.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; text-indent: -0.25in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Symbol"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol; color: black; "><span>·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">“Illegitimate” is too vague of a term.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; text-indent: -0.25in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Symbol"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol; color: black; "><span>·<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">“Illegal” is a legal conclusion derived from a court proceeding.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; text-indent: -0.25in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New'; color: black; "><span>o<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></span></span></font><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">There has been some preliminary talk about the process to determine if whether something constitutes registration abuse, but no decisions have been made on this subject.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">While we are sticking with this definition for now, we understand there are issues with it and expect to revisit it at a later time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">In the May 11<sup>th</sup> meeting we focused on defining “registration”, and how this definition will effect the scope of the working group. It appears that there is no easily borrowed definition of “registration” from ICANN, and there is debate about whether registration abuse can only occur at the exact moment in time the registration is created, or whether it can refer to an abuse at any time regarding registration.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>This debate on the definition of "registration" in registration abuse continued into the June 1st meeting. As RAP-WG member George Kirikos put it, the problem was a definitional one as to whether registration refers to a) the act of registering, or b) an entry in a register. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">This definitional issue was important because, for example, if registration were taken to mean an entry in a register a person who registered a domain name could be found guilty of registration abuse for causing consumer confusion with a site that was registered after it. While there was much debate we determined that registration abuse refers to abuse at the time of registration because abuse after registration would be abuse of domain use, not abuse of domain registration.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">At our most recent meeting we started gearing up for compiling more information on types of registration abuse, a major part of the RAP-WG charter. A preliminary list of abuses is available at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold; "><a href="http://tinyurl.com/l8kzsb" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://tinyurl.com/l8kzsb</a>. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b>We began discussing the abuses on this list, but there is still much more work to be done. This topic will be continued to worked on in the coming weeks/months.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">And that's the word from the RAP-WG.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p style="margin-bottom: 5.75pt; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica; color: black; ">Ed Nunes<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></span></blockquote></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>IP JUSTICE</div><div>Robin Gross, Executive Director</div><div>1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA</div><div>p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451</div><div>w: <a href="http://www.ipjustice.org">http://www.ipjustice.org</a> e: <a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br></div></div></div></body></html>