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I can't post to the GNSO list, so I request a NCUC councilor forward this important clarification on the GNSO list.<div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite">We have heard from the NCUC chair, council reps and others that the only<br>appropriate interested GNSO parties are from the NCUC.</blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div>Not true. We said "noncommercial stakeholders" - we did not say "NCUC". Important distinction.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Robin</div><div><br></div><div>PS: The link to entire GNSO Council mailing list archive seems to be "forbidden"????</div><div> <a href="http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/">http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/</a><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><br></font><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Avri Doria</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>></span><br> Date: 2009/1/20<br>Subject: [council] Re: Board Resolution on individual users<br>To: GNSO Council <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>Cc: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <<a href="mailto:cheryl@hovtek.com.au">cheryl@hovtek.com.au</a>>, Janis Karklins <<a href="mailto:janis.karklins@icann.org">janis.karklins@icann.org</a>>, Bertrand de La Chapelle <<a href="mailto:bdelachapelle@gmail.com">bdelachapelle@gmail.com</a>><br> <br><br><br> Hi,<br> <br> To be honest in reading this, I still don't know if the so called<br> 'all-GNSO' (1 rep from each SG or constituency + observer from GAC)<br> approach I suggested, with the addition of the representatives of the<br> potential new constituencies is the right answer. It seems to indicate<br> that if that is what the council wanted to do, that would be ok. It<br> also seems to indicate that if it was only NCUC participants, that would<br> be ok too or some solution in between (e.g. 3 NCUC and 1 from each of<br> the other houses ...). If I read correctly it also would allow a<br> solution that opened it up to any 'interested parties' to self identify<br> and participate in the dialogue. The only sine qua non is that it<br> include representatives of those groups wanting to form constituencies<br> and ALAC.<br> <br> We have heard from the NCUC chair, council reps and others that the only<br> appropriate interested GNSO parties are from the NCUC. I would like to<br> hear from some of the rest of the councilors to determine what path we<br> should take.<br> <br> As the deadline is soon, I think that ALAC is starting along the path as<br> was suggested earlier while waiting for the GNSO Council to decide what<br> it wants to do. They are very concerned with having at least some<br> answer - at least methodology and a request for more time - by the<br> deadline.<br> <br> thanks<br> <font color="#888888"><br> a.<br> </font><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br> On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 21:20 -0800, Denise Michel wrote:<br> > Dear Councilors and other interested parties:<br> ><br> > There has been some community discussion over the past weeks regarding<br> > the 11 December Board Resolution seeking a recommendation on how to<br> > incorporate the legitimate interests of individual Internet users in<br> > the GNSO in constructive yet non-duplicative ways. I would like to<br> > try to clarify the context of that resolution and clear up any<br> > misperceptions about its intent.<br> ><br> > This particular Resolution is the latest step on the part of the Board<br> > to resolve a fundamental strategic issue for the organization, that<br> > is, the appropriate role and representation of individual (commercial<br> > and non-commercial) Internet users in ICANN, and specifically within<br> > the GNSO. Its intent is to garner a recommendation from the<br> > interested community to assist the Board in resolving a recommendation<br> > made to the Board by the Working Group on GNSO Council Restructuring<br> > (WG-GCR) that the composition of the non-contracted party voting house<br> > of the GNSO Council should<br> ><br> > "…be open to membership of all interested parties … that use or<br> > provide services for the Internet, … and should explicitly not be<br> > restricted to domain registrants as recommended by the BGC."<br> ><br> > Because ongoing independent review proceedings of other ICANN<br> > structures have suggested different representational approaches, I<br> > think the Board wanted to ensure ample input and advice was received<br> > before resolving the matter. The full context and description of this<br> > issue was contained in the November Public Comment Forum request for<br> > input (see background materials, comments filed, and Staff summary of<br> > those contributions).<br> ><br> > The 11 December Resolution is an effort to help the Board identify a<br> > strategic solution that balances ALAC/At-Large and GNSO opportunities<br> > for all user and registrant stakeholders. In addition to the previous<br> > public comments, the Board hoped that the Resolution would spur<br> > additional community dialogue and agreement between interested<br> > parties. Given that the original WG-GCR recommendation was a consensus<br> > position supported by representatives from all the GNSO constituencies<br> > as well as GAC, ALAC and Nominating Committee participants, and that<br> > the Board decision on this matter could have broad impact, the Board<br> > did not mandate any particular methodology regarding the form that<br> > dialogue would take and the Resolution was drafted to offer<br> > flexibility in that regard. The Resolution also recognizes that this<br> > matter has particularly important (and time sensitive) implications<br> > for creation of the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG).<br> ><br> > In view of various community comments since the Resolution was<br> > published, it is important to emphasize that it is not intended to be<br> > a referendum on the different approaches that have been advanced by<br> > groups working on proposed NCSG charters. Staff has been<br> > corresponding with and providing assistance to participants about<br> > their efforts to produce draft NCSG charters that will ultimately be<br> > submitted to the Board. There appear to remain a few fundamental<br> > differences of opinion about the interpretation of the Board<br> > Governance Committee (BGC) Working Group recommendations, endorsed by<br> > the Board, particularly regarding the continued primacy of the<br> > constituency structure outlined in the ICANN By-laws. Proposed<br> > charters are not intended to be within the scope of the 11 December<br> > Resolution. When community members formally submit to the Board one<br> > or more petitions/charters for NCSG formation (and other Stakeholder<br> > Group charters), those efforts will be publicly posted for comment by<br> > all members of the community and will subsequently be evaluated by the<br> > Board.<br> ><br> > As directed by the Board at its 1 October 2008 meeting, it is Staff's<br> > obligation to work with the community to encourage new participants,<br> > facilitate the creation of new constituencies, and support the<br> > development of four new Stakeholder Groups. We remain committed to<br> > that process and stand ready to assist members of the community.<br> > Please contact me and the Policy Staff if you need assistance or would<br> > like to discuss these matters.<br> ><br> ><br> > Regards,<br> ><br> > Denise Michel<br> > ICANN Vice President<br> > Policy Development<br> ><br> <br> </div></div></div><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">____________________________________________________________</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">You received this message as a subscriber on the list:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ncuc-exec@lists.cpsr.org">ncuc-exec@lists.cpsr.org</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">To be removed from the list, send any message to:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ncuc-exec-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org">ncuc-exec-unsubscribe@lists.cpsr.org</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">For all list information and functions, see:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/ncuc-exec">http://lists.cpsr.org/lists/info/ncuc-exec</a></div> </blockquote></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>IP JUSTICE</div><div>Robin Gross, Executive Director</div><div>1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA</div><div>p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451</div><div>w: <a href="http://www.ipjustice.org">http://www.ipjustice.org</a> e: <a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br></div></body></html>