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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Robin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks so much for this summary. On the
incitement issue, I understand and agree with your statement that it is not
illegal under <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region>
law; indeed I think your statement may be a little weak. My understanding of
incitement tells me that it is literally impossible for a TLD string to “incite.”
Perhaps if there is a legal expert here they can tell me how ANY top level
domain strong of 2 – 8 letters can be categorized as inciting immediate
violence in a specific place at a specific time. Even “.killnow”
would not necessarily incite – it might be a joke site for all we know. This
is important because incitement is so specific that it shows that what the
policy is really targeting is the CONTENT of web sites, not the names.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>--MM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Non-Commercial
User Constituency [mailto:NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Robin Gross<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, November 02, 2008
11:00 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NCUC-DISCUSS] A few
points on ICANN's new gTLD policy implementation plans</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Greetings from <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Cairo</st1:place></st1:City>,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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A few key points on the discussion and newly released ICANN papers on
Implementation of New gTLD Recommendations.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><b><u><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>A.
On the Legal Rights of Others Objection:</span></font></u></b></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>ICANN lists 8 factors to consider in deciding whether to deny a domain
name based on the alleged intellectual property rights of others. The
UDRP, international trademark law and anti-cyber-squatting laws all require
consideration of "whether the applicant has a free expression right?"
ICANN's recommended 8 factors do not consider the applicant's freedom of
expression rights in any way. ICANN's recommendation is basically 8
factors that are 8 different versions of the same idea: has the objector ever
had the trademark? or does the objector intend to apply for a trademark? Or any
other IPR right the objector might have or want, like a copyright? Etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>So this recommendation for implementation departs from the UDRP and
international law and it also ignores Principle G of the GNSO's Final
Recommendations for New gTLDs:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>"The string evaluation process must not infringe the Applicant's
freedom of expression rights?"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Principle G was approved by both the GNSO and the ICANN Board of
Directors for this process, so ICANN staff is departing from the clear
direction of the GNSO and the Board of Directors and doing its own thing.
This problem needs to be fixed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Further, ICANN recommends that objections under this category be
decided by a SINGLE panelist, and specifically, an intellectual property rights
expert. Many of these cases lie in the tension between free expression
and intellectual property, and asking an IPR expert to make the decision gives
the IPR side an enormous advantage over the free expression interest.
This is not to say the panelist will intend to favor the IPR side, it is
just that the perspective one holds depends on the shoes one has walked in; and
the legal training and experience of representing large IPR holders gives an
advantage to understanding (and sharing) that viewpoint over the other.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><b><u><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>B.
On the Morality and Public Order Objection:</span></font></u></b></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>ICANN is leaning toward categorically banning 3 categories of
expression, which Kurt Pritz wrongly claims (with respect to 1 category) is
international law. Pritz said he surveyed "every jurisdiction in the
world" to come up with his list.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The 3 categories of expression to categorically ban are:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> 1. Incitement to violent lawless action.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> 2. Incitement to or promotion of discrimination based
upon race, color, gender, ethnicity, religion or national origin.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> 3. Incitement to or promotion of child pornography or
other sexual abuse of children.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Categories 1 and 3
(depending on interpretation) are legitimate reasons for banning expression
under international law. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>On Category 1:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>In the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
"incitement to violent lawless action" is illegal ONLY if the
violence is IMMEDIATE. For example, it is perfectly lawful to say in year
2008: "In the year 2050, we should cut-off the right arm of
politicians" because such a incitement does not lead to IMMEDIATE violence.
So we need further clarification from ICANN on this issue.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Category 2 is NOT an
accepted principle of international law. Banning "meanness" is
in clear contrast to well-settled <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> law and in violation of an
applicant's free expression rights (which is supposed to be protected by GNSO
Principle G). (This is the "European standard" for speech, but
certainly not Universal around the world and is illegal policy in the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>, the
jurisdiction in which ICANN resides). So Kurt is flat wrong that
this category is a "well-settled principle of international law".
I asked Kurt to provide the GNSO with the legal research he uncovered
that came to the conclusion that this category is illegal in the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>. He
said he would (but he has never followed-up with me in the past as promised),
so may need more needling from us on this issue.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>On Category 3.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>It is well-settled
principle of international law that child pornography illegal. No
argument about that. But "incitement or promotion" to engage in
child porn is different than the porn itself. So there is a <i><span
style='font-style:italic'>conflation </span></i>between law on child porn
itself with law on <i><span style='font-style:italic'>statements about</span></i>
child porn. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=1 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Objections
based on the Morality and Public Order objection will be determined by the
International Chamber of Commerce, so there is some concern that non-commercial
interests won't get a fair shake from ICC, which represents and advocates on
behalf the world's largest businesses. This needs to be better
understood.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><b><u><font size=1 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>C. "Community Objections"</span></font></u></b></span><font
size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:
Helvetica;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Implementation
recommendations for "communities" favor entrenched institutions at
the expense of innovators and start-ups. Still no definition of
"community", so the community of "Internet users", and the
community of "dog owners", and the community of "blondes",
and the community of "anything you can imagine" is a "defined
community" according to ICANN and will have standing if there is an
institution to lodge the objection.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><b><u><font size=1 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>D. Other Points:</span></font></u></b></span><font
size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:
Helvetica;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>1. Even after
the panel makes its decision to allow a domain name, the ICANN Board of Director
will still vote to approve or deny the domain name.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>2. ICANN is
spending $700,000 on a computer algorithm to help determine "confusingly
similar" of a domain. There is wide skepticism to this approach to
begin with (since "confusion" is always context dependent), but the
exhorbitant expense for this "help" adds insult to injury to domain
name registrants who pay for this nonsense.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>3. I've been
told that ICANN staff will receive a large cash bonus from ICANN for passing
the implementation. I don't know if this is true or what the details are,
but it is worth looking into, since ICANN is supposed to bottom-up policy
forum.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>4. The cost of
applying for a new domain name keeps rising such that only the wealthiest of
institutions can ever afford the process and actually obtain a domain name.
Sad - missed opportunity.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> a)
$100 fee to access the application system<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> b)
$185,000 to apply for a domain name<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> c)
$50,000 for Registry Services Review Fee<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> d)
$TBD to file Objection to application (expect to be thousands of $$)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> e)
$TBD to file Response to Objection (fee due from applicant!)
(expect to be thousands of $$)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'> f)
$TBD: the panelists may appoint "experts" to be paid for the
parties equally (without the request of either party)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>5. Applicants
are only given FIVE DAYS to file a Response to an objection. If the
Applicant can't come up with the THOUSANDS of dollars in 5 days to respond to
an objection, the Response will be disregarded (and the applicant loses).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><b><u><font size=1 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>References:</span></font></u></b></span><font size=1
color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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