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Hi Kathy,<div><br><div><div>On Jan 13, 2008, at 6:51 PM, <a href="mailto:KathrynKL@AOL.COM">KathrynKL@AOL.COM</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <font id="role_document" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2"> <div> <div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2">Hi Robin (and all of our other NCUC Council Reps),</font></div> <div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2"></font> </div> <div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2">Thank you for posting this Council invitation for comments on Whois.  As I think about preparing comments, I would be interested to know your thoughts and the background of this new proceeding. Based on the discussions on the Council meetings and lists (and perhaps some informal conversations as well):</font></div> <div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2">- what do you think Council is expecting from these comments?</font></div></div></font></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Council is looking for direction on what kind of studies to do (or not do) on Whois and how to treat the studies.  So I'd like to encourage folks to submit comments, even if they are brief, on the issue.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><font id="role_document" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2"><div> <div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2">- what would you like to see from these comments (what would assist you and past NCUC Whois positions)?</font></div></div></font></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 18.0px 0.0px; line-height: 18.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">These studies are an opportunity for important facts to be explored regarding the need for privacy protection of Whois data, so proposing studies along those lines would be useful.  Another suggestion was to conduct a study on the effects on crime prevention in country-code top-level domains that shield some contact data in order to protect the privacy rights of Internet users.  In the comments, we want to discourage the GNSO from waiting for the outcomes of these studies before whois can be reformed, however.  <br></font></p></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><font id="role_document" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2"><div> <div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2">- what do you think/know/sense that the Intellectual Property/ Business Constituencies want from this set of comments and will demand?</font></div></div></font></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I think they will propose studies to try to show consumers don't need (or already have sufficient) privacy protections so ICANN should not revise its whois policy.  Steve Delbianco from the IPC proposed the f<a href="http://forum.icann.org/lists/whois-comments-2008/">irst 3 studies</a> on 9 Jan.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><font id="role_document" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2"><div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2"></font></div> <div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2"> <div> </div> <div>Thanks for the background and insight, and for all your efforts as our Council reps!</div></font></div></font></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Thank you for your help on this!   Milton may have more advice on this since he's been participating in the ad hoc group set up regarding whois studies.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Best,</div><div>Robin</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><font id="role_document" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2"><div><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2"> <div>Kathy <br></div> </font><blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face="Arial" color="#000000" size="2">  <div><br>  <div>Begin forwarded message:</div>  <blockquote type="cite">    <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000000"><b><br></b></font></div>    <div style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: -1">GNSO Council invites Recommendations     for Future Studies on WHOIS</span></div>    <div style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><br></div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">Public comments are invited until 15 February 2008     on recommendations</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">for future studies on the WHOIS system.</div>    <div style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><br></div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">Submit comments to: <a title="mailto:whois-comments-2008@icann.org" href="mailto:whois-comments-2008@icann.org">whois-comments-2008@icann.org</a></div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">View comments at: <a title="http://forum.icann.org/lists/whois-comments-2008/" href="http://forum.icann.org/lists/whois-comments-2008/">http://forum.icann.org/lists/whois-comments-2008/</a></div>    <div style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><br></div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">Background</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">At the 31 October meeting in Los Angeles, the     Generic Names Supporting</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">Organization (GNSO) Council voted to conduct     several studies of the</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">WHOIS system, concluding that a comprehensive,     objective and</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">quantifiable understanding of key factual issues     regarding the gTLD</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">WHOIS system will benefit future GNSO policy     development efforts.</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">Before defining the details of these studies, the     Council is soliciting</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">suggestions from the community for specific topics     of study on WHOIS</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">that community stakeholders recommend be     conducted.</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">Possible areas of study might include a study of     certain aspects of gTLD</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">registrants and registrations, a study of certain     uses and misuses of</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">WHOIS data, a study of the use of proxy     registration services, including</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">privacy services, or a comparative study of gTLD     and ccTLD WHOIS.</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">If you would like to offer suggestions about topics     of study on WHOIS,</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">please do so by completing the online form     available by clicking on the</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">following link <a title="http://forms.icann.org/cgi/study-suggestions" href="http://forms.icann.org/cgi/study-suggestions">http://forms.icann.org/cgi/study-suggestions</a>.<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>Please submit a separate online     form for</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">each study that you recommend should be conducted     and answer all</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">questions with as much detail as possible.<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>Please limit your online</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">answers to 1-2 paragraphs per question.<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>Additional detail and any</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">supporting materials may be emailed to: <a title="mailto:whois-comments-2008@icann.org" href="mailto:whois-comments-2008@icann.org">whois-comments-2008@icann.org</a>.</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">You are also invited to comment on proposed studies     that have already</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">been posted.<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>To do so please reference the     specific proposal you are</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">commenting on.<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>Lastly, you may also provide input     via email, instead of</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">posting online via the form provided.<span class="Apple-converted-space">  </span>To do so, please send email     to</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><a title="mailto:whois-comments-2008@icann.org" href="mailto:whois-comments-2008@icann.org">whois-comments-2008@icann.org</a>.</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">More information about policy activities related to     WHOIS can be found</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">at: <a title="http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/" href="http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/">http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/</a></div>    <div style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><br></div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">Glen de Saint Géry</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">GNSO Secretariat - ICANN</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px">gnso.secretariat[at]gnso.icann.org</div>    <div style="MARGIN: 0px"><a title="http://gnso.icann.org/" href="http://gnso.icann.org/">http://gnso.icann.org</a></div>    <div style="MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><br></div></blockquote></div><br>  <div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 12px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; orphans: 2; widows: 2; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto">  <div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div>  <div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div>  <div>IP JUSTICE</div>  <div>Robin Gross, Executive Director</div>  <div>1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA</div>  <div>p: +1-415-553-6261    f: +1-415-462-6451</div>  <div>w: <a title="http://www.ipjustice.org/" href="http://www.ipjustice.org/">http://www.ipjustice.org</a>       e: <a title="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org" href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br>=</font></blockquote></div> <div></div> <div> </div></font><br><br><br><div><font style="color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><hr style="MARGIN-TOP: 10px">Start the year off right.  <a title="http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489" href="http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489" target="_blank">Easy ways to stay in shape</a> in the new year. </font></div></blockquote></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div>IP JUSTICE</div><div>Robin Gross, Executive Director</div><div>1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA</div><div>p: +1-415-553-6261    f: +1-415-462-6451</div><div>w: <a href="http://www.ipjustice.org">http://www.ipjustice.org</a>     e: <a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br></div></body></html>