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<div>Hi all! Hope you're enjoying the weekend! I just saw this
slashdot conversation on whois and ICANN and thought you might like to
read it as well. - F</div>
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>http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/04/03/1726226.shtml?tid=126&tid=95</div
>
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<div>Here's an excerpt:</div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="+3"><b>ICANN Cracks Down on Invalid
WHOIS Data</b></font></div>
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<b>Posted by</b></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#663300"><u><b> michael</b></u></font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#000000"><b> on Saturday April
03, @04:35PM</b><br>
</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+1" color="#000000"><b>from
the make-datamining-easier dept.</b></font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#663300"><u>DotNM</u></font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+2" color="#000000"> writes<i> "</i></font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#663300"><u><i>Internet
News</i></u></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#000000"><i> reports that ICANN, the Internet Corporation for
Assigned Names and Numbers, is beginning a crackdown on invalid data
in the WHOIS database. In ICANN's annual report, they found that
nearly 5000 of the 24148 complaints were due to inaccurate WHOIS
information. Some of the domain names in question had the address
information of known spammers in the database. Registrars, the
companies you register your domains with, are under contractual
obligations to ensure this information is correct and accurate. Do you
believe this is a step in the right direction?
Why?"</i></font></div>
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#000000"><b>Not
quite...</b> (Score:5, Funny)<br>
by</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#663300"><u>
Dimensio (311070)</u></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#000000"> <</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#663300"><u>darkstar@iIIIglou.com minus
threevowels</u></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#000000">> on Saturday April 03, @05:20PM (</font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#663300"><u>#8757800</u></font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+2" color="#000000">)<br>
You don't just turn off the domain instantly. Attempt to contact the
domain holder (they have to have *some* kind of valid contact known to
the registrar). If calls/emails/letters are not answered, lock the
domain. Tell the holder that if data isn't updated within a certain
period of time, the domain registration is forfeit.<br>
In the case of spammers' domains, take a few extra steps. First, lock
the domain right away. Second, instead of attempting to inform the
spammer that their domain is locked until the WHOIS data is updated,
send an assasin to where they live to have them killed.<br>
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<b>Will this limit freedom of expression?</b> (Score:4,
Interesting)<br>
by</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#663300"><u>
thesaur (681425)</u></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#000000"> on Saturday April 03, @06:30PM (</font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#663300"><u>#8758225</u></font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+2" color="#000000">)<br>
The proposal to force all domains to use valid WHOIS data would be a
boon to law-enforcement efforts. But that leads to another potential
concern.<br>
<br>
In the US, it's not a problem to express yourself. You can say
whatever you like about the government and get away with it. OK, not
quite<i> anything</i>. In other countries, however, including western
countries like Germany and France, freedom of expression is
non-existant -- you may only say what the government allows you to
say. In the two countries I've mentioned, it's not much of a problem,
because they've basically only banned racist expressions. But there
are more than enough other countries (China, anyone?) that actively
work to suppress their citizens from expressing themselves freely. For
dissidents in such countries, false WHOIS data may be necessary for
freedom of expression. Is ICANN trying to help such governments crack
down on their citizens?<br>
<br>
If ICANN wishes to enforce this rule, I agree with the procedure
outlined in the parent post, but disagree that spammer's domains
should be treated separately.<br>
<br>
The problem is, how do you recognize a spammer's domain? If you simply
look at the "to" address, it will result in a lot of
legitimate sites getting spammed, because a real spammer will fake the
from address. If you look at the originating sender, I've had enough
(virus) spam that apparently originated at my mail server. The header
information was modified -- the IP did not belong to my mail server.
But you can't backtrace to find the domain if the IP is in a
dynamically allocated range. Once again, 1:0 for the spammers.<br>
<br>
The few honest souls who are<i> dumb</i> enough to use valid
information will get caught anyway. Now if we are talking about
domains that are linked in spam, that's a little easier to deal with,
but there is still a large potential for abuse. So a spammer doesn't
like a site. Voila, take them down. In fact, anyone could effectively
disrupt any website they like.<br>
<br>
Of course, spammers should be prosecuted, provided they are within the
jurisdiction of a state that cares (e.g., the US). But intellegent
spammers work offshore anyway, which puts them beyond the reach of any
western regulatory body except ICANN. We can go after their domains,
but there's no easy solution to determine which domains are pure
spam.</font></div>
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freedom of expression?</u></font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+2" color="#000000"> by Dimensio</font><font
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April 03, @08:22PM</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
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face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#663300"><u>Re:Will this limit
freedom of expression?</u></font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+2" color="#000000"> by MonsterChicharo</font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+1" color="#000000"> (Score:1) Sunday
April 04, @01:40AM</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
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color="#663300"><u>Re:Will this limit freedom of
expression?</u></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#000000"> by Reziac</font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+1" color="#000000"> (Score:2) Sunday April 04,
@01:32AM</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#000000"><br>
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color="#663300"><u>Re:It's a rule, play by it.</u></font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#000000"> by
Troed</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+1" color="#000000">
(Score:2) Saturday April 03, @04:51PM</font><font
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face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#663300"><u>Re:It's a rule,
play by it.</u></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#000000"> by secolactico</font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+1" color="#000000"> (Score:2) Saturday April 03,
@04:59PM</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
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<b>Re:It's a rule, play by it.</b> (Score:5, Informative)<br>
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 03, @05:23PM (</font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#663300"><u>#8757819</u></font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+2" color="#000000">)<br>
postmaster@ is required (RFC822 6.3, C.6), webmaster@ is just a
convention, for now.<br>
RFC 2142, "Mailbox Names for Common Services, Roles and
Functions" is a proposed standard and includes 'webmaster@',
'abuse@', 'noc@', etc.<br>
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are no good.</u></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#000000"> by Jonathan Quince</font><font
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April 03, @05:49PM</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
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accounts are no good.</u></font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+2" color="#000000"> by AndroidCat</font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+1" color="#000000"> (Score:1) Saturday
April 03, @06:55PM</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
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color="#663300"><u>Re:It's a rule, play by it.</u></font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#000000"> by
Zeinfeld</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+1" color="#000000">
(Score:2) Saturday April 03, @07:23PM</font><font
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<b>Re:It's a rule, play by it.</b> (Score:4, Informative)<br>
by</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#663300"><u>
multipart/mixed (163409) *</u></font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+2" color="#000000"> on Saturday April 03, @09:09PM
(</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#663300"><u>#8758968</u></font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+2" color="#000000">)</font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+1" color="#000000"><br>
(</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+1"
color="#663300"><u>http://wes.zapto.org/~wes/maximus/</u></font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+1" color="#000000">)</font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#000000"><br>
>> postmaster@ is required (RFC822 6.3, C.6)<br>
> Oh dear you thought they were standards,<br>
RFC 822 *is* a standard. It is also known as STD 11, "Standard
for the format of ARPA Internet text messages".<br>
--------- *snip* ---------<br>
6.3. RESERVED ADDRESS<br>
<span
></span> It often is
necessary to send mail to a site, without know-<br>
ing any of its
valid addresses. For example, there may be mail<br>
system
dysfunctions, or a user may wish to find out a person's<br>
correct
address, at that site.<br>
<span
></span> This standard
specifies a single, reserved mailbox address<br>
(local-part)
which is to be valid at each site. Mail sent to<br>
that address is
to be routed to a person responsible for the<br>
site's mail
system or to a person with responsibility for general<br>
site operation.
The name of the reserved local-part address is:<br>
<span
></span
> <span
></span
> <span
></span
> <span
></span
> <span
></span>
Postmaster<br>
so that
"Postmaster@domain" is required to be valid.<br>
Note: This
reserved local-part must be matched without sensi-<br>
<span
></span
>
tivity to alphabetic case, so that "POSTMASTER",
"postmas-<br>
<span
></span
>
ter", and even "poStmASteR" is to be accepted.<br>
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color="#000000"> by Jah-Wren Ryel</font><font face="Times New Roman"
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play by it.</u></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#000000"> by S.Lemmon</font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+1" color="#000000"> (Score:2) Saturday April 03,
@07:28PM</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
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face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#000000"> by
FattMattP</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+1"
color="#000000"> (Score:2) Saturday April 03, @08:44PM</font><font
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color="#663300"><u>Re:It's a rule, play by it.</u></font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#000000"> by Frater
219</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+1" color="#000000">
(Score:3) Saturday April 03, @04:55PM</font><font
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color="#663300"><u>Re:It's a rule, play by it.</u></font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#000000"> by
MCZapf</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+1" color="#000000">
(Score:1) Saturday April 03, @05:09PM</font><font
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face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#663300"><u>Re:It's a rule,
play by it.</u></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#000000"> by Fastolfe</font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+1" color="#000000"> (Score:2) Saturday April 03,
@05:57PM</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
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<b>Forget the spammers... it's the stalkers!</b> (Score:5,
Insightful)<br>
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 03, @05:21PM (</font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#663300"><u>#8757808</u></font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+2" color="#000000">)<br>
How many personal domains are out there? And how many freaks are there
online who'd wet themselves over the chance to stalk people whose
website the dislike or whose website turns them on or whatever the
hell it is that they get off on?<br>
My websites all point to my former address. I moved because some freak
was harassing me and I was worried he was going to show up on my
doorstep some day. I didn't update the listing and won't for at least
another year, unless I get a PO box, and I'm sure as hell not going to
spend the money on that when I'm getting zero benefit on it.<br>
My registrar has my real contact info. That's all that matters. If
someone has a complaint about one of my sites that can't be resolved
by emailing me, they can write to my hosting provider or my
registrar.<br>
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stalkers!</u></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#000000"> by Fastolfe</font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+1" color="#000000"> (Score:3) Saturday April 03,
@06:05PM</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#000000"><b>Because
I want a persistent address</b> (Score:5, Insightful)<br>
by</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#663300"><u>
phr1 (211689)</u></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#000000"> on Saturday April 03, @10:19PM (</font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#663300"><u>#8759289</u></font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+2" color="#000000">)<br>
If I have a lower level domain under some ISP, then I'm trapped with
them. If my ISP's service goes down the tubes, or if they go out of
business altogether, or if they jack up their prices or whatever, I
can't switch ISP's without losing email or web contact with anyone I
gave my address or URL to. I move around a lot; my physical addresses
and phone numbers change all the time. My internet domain is the most
stable point of contact that I have.<br>
<br>
I had a stable email address with an ISP for about ten years, but the
ISP discontinued my service plan and said I'd have to change addresses
if I wanted to stay with them, so that's why I registered a domain, so
I have a permanent net address that I can give out to friends and
acquaintances. That doesn't mean I want it advertised to the public.
It's like an unlisted phone number. I'm ok with the registrar having
my contact info in case law enforcement needs to find me, but I see
absolutely no reason they have to publish it in WHOIS.<br>
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size="+2" color="#000000"> by Fastolfe</font><font
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April 03, @06:58PM</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
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color="#000000"> by Fastolfe</font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+1" color="#000000"> (Score:1) Saturday April 03,
@07:00PM</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
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color="#000000"> by Avihson</font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+1" color="#000000"> (Score:3) Saturday April 03,
@06:35PM</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
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color="#000000"> by silas_moeckel</font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+1" color="#000000"> (Score:3) Sunday April 04,
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size="+2" color="#000000"> by Anonymous Coward</font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+1" color="#000000"> (Score:1) Saturday
April 03, @07:06PM</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
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color="#000000"> by Anonymous Coward</font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+1" color="#000000"> (Score:3) Saturday
April 03, @08:42PM</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
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stalkers!</u></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#000000"> by howhardcanitbetocrea</font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+1" color="#000000"> (Score:1) Saturday
April 03, @11:29PM</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
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April 03, @05:46PM</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
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(Score:2) Saturday April 03, @06:00PM</font><font
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color="#663300"><u>Re:It's a rule, play by it.</u></font><font
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(Score:2) Saturday April 03, @05:49PM</font><font
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by Fastolfe</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+1"
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color="#000000"> (Score:2) Saturday April 03, @05:57PM</font><font
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<b>Re:It's a rule, play by it.</b> (Score:5, Insightful)<br>
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cubicledrone (681598)</u></font><font face="Times New Roman"
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<i>If you want to make a dent in spamming, just take away their
property(including house and car, in fact the food out of the fridge
and their clothes too) and empty their bank accounts.</i><br>
If you want to make a dent in spamming, just violate the first,
fourth, fifth, sixth and eighth amendments. Simple!<br>
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iminplaya</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+1"
color="#000000"> (Score:2) Saturday April 03, @06:59PM</font><font
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color="#000000"> (Score:2) Saturday April 03, @11:08PM</font><font
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(Score:3) Saturday April 03, @11:59PM</font><font
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color="#000000"> (Score:2) Saturday April 03, @09:37PM</font><font
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(Score:1) Saturday April 03, @05:10PM</font><font
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<b>Re:It's a rule, play by it.</b> (Score:5, Insightful)<br>
by</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#663300"><u>
JPriest (547211)</u></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#000000"> on Saturday April 03, @05:16PM (</font><font
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I have registered a total of 4 domains, after using valid information
on the first one I refuse to make the same mistake again. My first
domain expired in 2001 and I still get credit card offers from it.
Like it or not, it is still a public database containing personal
information. I can't really blame people for using incorrect
information.<br>
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<b>Re:It's a rule, play by it.</b> (Score:4, Insightful)<br>
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tyldis (712367)</u></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#000000"> on Saturday April 03, @08:40PM (</font><font
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First off: I'm a poor student and live in Norway. I have a few hobby
domains, mostly so I can run my own email configuration.<br>
I haven't recieved any snailmail spam, most likely because I'm not
American, but one evening I got a [lovely] call from China. A female
(yes, I was shocked myself, first time a girl calls me!) said
something about representing some huge business.</font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#000000">Her
english was bad so I couldn't really hear what she was saying, but I
finally figured out that they had heard about 'my large and great
company' and that I was known worldwide for my splendid leadership and
nose for business.<br>
I kinda freaked out, hung up and went for my tinfoil hat. I changed
the contact info, but when my registrar complained that my address
'BOFH Avenue 666' was bouncing I had to change it back.<br>
Bottom line, I would very much appreciate some kind of mechanism that
would protect your privacy a little bit better. The problem is that
the Internet is global and legislation is very different around the
globe so the solution would have to be technical.<br>
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color="#000000"> by Adam9</font><font face="Times New Roman"
size="+1" color="#000000"> (Score:2) Saturday April 03,
@10:57PM</font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
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color="#663300"><u>Re:It's a rule, play by it.</u></font><font
face="Times New Roman" size="+2" color="#000000"> by
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(Score:2) Saturday April 03, @05:18PM</font><font
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(Score:3) Saturday April 03, @05:49PM</font><font
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<b>It's a crappy rule; change it.</b> (Score:5, Interesting)<br>
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wurp (51446)</u></font><font face="Times New Roman" size="+2"
color="#000000"> on Saturday April 03, @05:54PM (</font><font
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Three years ago some jackass from /. thought it would be funny to call
up my home phone and leave a nasty drunken message because I disagree
with him about the current SUV craze. The reason he was able to do
this was because (stupid me) I kept accurate whois information for my
domain names. Had I pissed him off enough, there was nothing keeping
him from coming to my home.<br>
Requiring public, accurate whois information is idiotic. I think a
requirement for accurate information held in confidence by ICAN is a
good idea (to be available to the police with a warrant). Before you
run out there cheering for accurate public information, think about
how you would feel if every email and every web posting you made had
your home phone & address on it. If everyone were sane and
reasonable, it would be good. Since everyone's not, and someone can
anonymously e.g. burn your house down, it's bad.<br>
Spammers are just going to get phones with junk info and PO boxes.
This can only hurt, not help.<br>
I'm surprised to see the responses I'm seeing on a site where most
people ostensibly argue for free speech and anonymity</font></div>
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