[ncdnhc-discuss] Membership Status of Silicon Valley PublicAccess Link

Milton Mueller Mueller at syr.edu
Wed Oct 31 17:02:43 CET 2001


It seems that the same old politics are
being played with a fairly routine
membership issue.

I won't apologize because there is nothing 
to apologize about. I sent a request to the 
organization to make them aware of the 
issue and to consider providing a new 
representative. 

The constituency as a whole will resolve
the issue, but the issue is a real one. 

Let's consider the implications.
DNSO constituencies are supposed to 
represent distinct interests. Yet,
people are members of many different 
organizations. The DNSO constituency structure 
can be easily gamed (i.e., manipulated) if
we allow people who are major stakeholders
in one constituency to strongly affect the 
proceedings of another. 

The AT&T representative who runs
the B&C constituency is probably a member
of many non-profit organizations. So is
the Verisign representative. Should be
allow the Marilyn Cades and Chuck Gomes
to join our constituency, perhaps as the
representative of their local boat clubs? 

These are full-time, paid lobbyists. 
Is Crocker's case different?
Perhaps. But it is worth discussing. 
Certainly it would be wise and simple for 
SVPA to provide us with another 
representative, one more focused on
the nonprofit sector and not a major
stakeholder in a commercial registry.

>>> Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales <vany at sdnp.org.pa> 10/31/01 10:22AM >>>
Dear Adam, Dave, Milton and all:

What Milton stated about Dave was done in its own behalf and wasn't done
in behalf of the AdCom.
The AdCom never has discussed about any membership issue regarding
conflict of interests of Dave Crocker.

I sent also in a previoius e-mail my opinion about Milton and Dave
exchanges as a member of the NCDNHC, not as a member of the AdCom.

I think the one that has to apologize is Milton and not the AdCom.  The
AdCom wasn't aware of this until Milton sent
an e-mail to the discuss list in his own behalf and whatever apologizes
has to be given, it should be done by Milton.

By the way, I am not talking in behalf of the AdCom, I am just exposing
the facts as a member of the NCDNHC.

Best Regards
Vany



Adam Peake wrote:

> Milton,
>
> This should have been discussed on the constituency mailing list. I
> am sure you will come up with some bullshit about your elected duty
> as an "adcom member".  Rubbish. Dave should have been given the
> opportunity to explain his relationship with Neustar and answer any
> questions you and other members might have.  Our procedures are
> clear, membership issues are to be discussed on the constituency list.
>
> At no time has Dave tried to hide his relationship with Neustar, he
> volunteered information about his work for them (at or shortly before
> our meeting in Marina del Rey last year) when Neustar applied for one
> of the new TLDs. This is not a new issue.
>
> I think it would be appropriate for the constituency's administrative
> committee to send an apology to Dave Crocker and Mr. Mazliach.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Adam
>
> Adam Peake
> GLOCOM Tokyo
>
> >Dear Mr. Mazliach:
> >We appreciate your organization's membership in the
> >Noncommercial Domain Name Holders' Constituency
> >(NCDNHC) of the Internet Corporation for Assigned
> >Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> >
> >Currently your representative in NCDNHC is Mr.
> >David Crocker, an emeritus Board member of SVPA.
> >In order to avoid a conflict of interest, we would
> >request that your organization appoint a new
> >representative.
> >
> >Mr. Crocker is listed as a member of the Neustar
> >team which just successfully won the award
> >for management of the .us top-level domain.
> >In making domain name policy, there may be a
> >conflict of interest between Neustar's interests
> >as a commercial registry, and those of
> >noncommercial domain name holders. Of
> >course, as a bona fide noncommcerical
> >organization SVPA is still eligible.
> >
> >I'm sure you can agree that it would be
> >inappropriate for someone with such a large
> >stake in a commercial domain name
> >service provider to represent noncommercial
> >interests in the domain name policy making
> >process.
> >
> >This problem has arisen with a few other
> >organizations before, and our solution has
> >been to make sure that there are different
> >organizational representatives.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Dr. Milton Mueller,
> >Syracuse University
> >North American representative to the
> >Names Council for the NCDNHC
> >
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--
Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales
Information Technology Specialist
Sustainable Development Networking Programme/Panama
e-mail: vany at sdnp.org.pa 
http://www.sdnp.org.pa 



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