[ncdnhc-discuss] Who will run .us?

[Harold Feld]

While I have heard nothing from the Commerce department, Joe Sims has 
opined that the delegee was NSI, not Commerce.  NSI subcontracted to 
ISI. When that subcontract lapsed, NSI assumed direct operational 
control.  No redelegation was necessary.  However, transfer to a new 
contractor would require redelegation.

Commerce has not, tot he best of my knowledge, taken any official 
position on redelegation.  I cannot imagine that ICANN (which has 
subsumed IANA) (wake up already!  There is No More IANA!  It is gone, 
kiss it off, it's run up the curtain and joined the choir invisible. 
This insistence on the continued existence of IANA would be merely a 
humorous illusion if it were not such a pernicious pallitive for the 
those who might otherewise oppose ICANN's exercise of authority), a 
contractor dependent on the Commerce department, will fail  to do 
Commerce's bidding.  In this area in particular, in light of the 
previous political fights this summer.  Any appearance by Commerce that 
it will sacrifice U.S. sovereign interests in .us will be viewed with 
extreme disfavor by Congress.

Harold Feld

Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law wrote:

>I suspect that DoC answer would be that it remains the .us delegee and the
>firm hired is merely its subcontractor.  I don't see anything in IANA
>rules that prevents subcontracting.  Do you?
>
>On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Milton Mueller wrote:
>
>>Chun:
>>This message made me laugh, but it contains
>>a very serious point. You are asking the 
>>US Commerce Department to abide by the 
>>procedures set up by its own little creature
>>(ICANN). This is very clever. You should
>>send this message to Karen Rose and a few
>>US Congress people. 
>>
>>Let me know when you get an answer ;-)
>>
>>--MM
>>
>>>>>Chun Eung Hwi <ehchun at peacenet.or.kr> 10/19/01 21:59 PM >>>
>>>>>
>>Dear Chris Chiu and others,
>>
>>I have some questions regarding the redelegation of .us.
>>
>>First, in my understanding, .us is also one ccTLD that is included in IANA
>>database - http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htm Therefore, it is very
>>natural for the redelegation to abide by RFC1591 and ICP-1. For the
>>redelegation of one specific ccTLD, we have very clear documented
>>procedure.
>>
>>Second, according to that procedure, IANA should make a report for
>>redelegation and get the authorization of ICANN board like all other
>>redelegation cases up to now. Moreover, the operator of .us like all other
>>ccTLD cases should make a formal contract with ICANN. Those contract
>>drafts has already been posted on ICANN website for public comment.
>>
>>Third, I heard that CDT have tried to make an MoU with new operator
>>together with other public interest groups. This activity could be
>>justified as follwing statements of ICP-1.
>>
>>"(a) ... The IANA will make them a major consideration in any TLD
>>delegation/transfer discussions. Significantly interested parties in the
>>domain should agree that the proposed TLD manager is the appropriate
>>party. ...  
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>(e) ... It is also very helpful for the IANA to receive communications
>>from other parties that may be concernedor affected by the transfer. In
>>the event of a conflict over designation of a TLD manager, the IANA tries
>>to have conflicting parties reach agreement among themselves and generally
>>takes no action unless all contending parties agree. ..."
>>(Excerpts from http://www.icann.org/icp/icp-1.htm)
>>
>>Then, still I have never look at IANA report for the redelegation of .us.
>>And I want to know what CDT and other public interest groups would respond
>>to the DoC's plan.
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Chun Eung Hwi
>>------------------------------------------------------------
>>Chun Eung Hwi
>>General Secretary, PeaceNet | phone:     (+82) 2- 583-3033
>>Seoul Yangchun P.O.Box 81   |   pcs:     (+82) 019-259-2667 
>>Seoul, 158-600, Korea       | eMail:   ehchun at peacenet.or.kr   
>>------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 18 Oct 2001, Chris Chiu wrote:
>>
>>>The United States Commerce Department still plans to pick the future
>>>operator of the .us country-code top-level domain by the end of October
>>>2001. 
>>>
>>>See
>>>http://www.internetdemocracyproject.org/#highlights
>>>
>>>Sincerely,
>>>Christopher Chiu
>>>Global Internet Liberty Campaign Organizer
>>>American Civil Liberties Union
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