[ncdnhc-discuss] Esther Dyson on the Agenda Change

Perpétus Jacques Houngbo jacques at orumila.com
Sun Oct 14 22:21:20 CEST 2001


Dear all,

> that Amadeu will pursue - he was on vacations when I proposed it. It is
> that every ICANN or govenance proposition includes a small part
> explaining
> how help reducing the financial, lingual and digital divide.
>


I would like to suggest that the NCDNHC draft a relosution to support this
idea. Please Chris, can you do it (as my english does not allow me to do it
:) )?

Jacques

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> This is not much. But if it became a cultural reflex in the Internet
> Govenance, I suppose it would help many to get real, to avoid a lot of
> uncessary debates and to get better security and stability for the
> Internet, while really helping the true world's development. USA only
> represent 4% of the world population: the internet is first a way to live
> together.
>
> Jefsey.
>
>
> On 06:47 11/10/01, Norbert Klein said:
> >Barbara Simons wrote:
> >
> > > I agree.  Esther's article is also accepting of other outrageous
> > > provisions of the ALSC report, such as requiring people
> > > to have domain names in order to vote and charging them
> > > "a small fee ($5 to $15) to cover the costs of registering
> > > voters and running the election."  She then goes on to say that
> > > they will try to find "outside organizations" to cover the fee for
> > > those who can't afford it.  Yea, sure.
> > >
> > > In the Southern United States during the time that African
> > > Americans were not allowed to vote, one of the techniques
> > > used to disenfranchise them was a poll tax.  People had to
> > > pay in order to be allowed to vote.  It's a terrific way to
> > > prevent the poor from voting.
> > >
> > > Not only is $5 to $15 a significant sum of money for people
> > > living in some countries, but the entire notion is poorly
> > > thought through.  How does the ALSC propose that the
> > > funds be collected?  Through credit card transactions?
> > > How do they propose to deal with weak local currencies?
> > >
> >
> >The monthly salary of a teacher in Cambodia is around US$30.
> >
> >Since the Ministry of Post and Telecommunications took over the DNS
> >administration (which I had done for free) in 1998, the registration of a
> >domain under .kh cost $200, then "only" $160 for the first two
> years. (And
> >there were no international credit cards available in Cambodia
> to pay the $70
> >for a registration abroad.)
> >
> >Now, since you can get a domain for $8.95 from GoDaddy at .com
> etc., the DNS
> >registration in Cambodia goes down since 1st of October to $70
> for the first
> >two years.
> >
> >To get "assistance from outside (from whom?) organizations for those who
> >cannot pay" - the administration of such an effort might cost
> more than the
> >costs. To cash a check in Cambodia coming from abroad costs
> often $20 to $25
> >(even if the amount on the check is less).
> >
> >Just to share what this means for people in situations similar to ours.
> >
> >Norbert Klein
> >Phnom Penh/Cambodia
> >
> >====
> >
> > >
> > > The ALSC committee was stacked by the conscious
> > > decision not to include any strong supporter of
> > > strengthening the voice of the At-Large through
> > > representation (at least half of the ICANN Board
> > > members should be elected by the At-Large) and
> > > democratic elections.  The final report demonstrates
> > > how very effective this stacking was.
> > >
> > > Barbara
> > >
> > > "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Actually, the essay is really annoying: it presents the six
> (basically a
> > > > ratification of the decisions ED voted for when on the Board) as a
> > > > COMPROMISE, when in fact it's siding with one side.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, Milton Mueller wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > >From her newsletter:
> > > > >
> > > > > (I hope this is "fair use"!)
> > > > >
> > > > > ICANN has just announced that the agency's annual
> > > > > meeting next month, which was supposed to include
> > > > > a decision on the ALSC's recommendations, will focus
> > > > > on security issues. That sounds very nice -- responsive
> > > > > to current conditions and so forth -- but it ends up delaying
> > > > > more pressing issues.
> > > > >
> > > > > Security is important, and ICANN's member organization¯
> > > > > -- technical developers, Internet service providers,
> > > > > address and domain name registries and registrars -- should
> > > > > certainly work together on security issues. But most of
> > > > > what they need to do is fairly specific and beyond the
> > > > > purview of a policy and standards body. ICANN and its
> > > > > members do need to be aware of security issues, but the
> > > > > details -- especially for ensuring the integrity of the root
> > > > > servers, which are the foundation of the Domain Name
> > > > > System probably should NOT be discussed in public.
> > > > > Regardless,accomplishing these things requires staff and
> > > > > technical expert time ¯ not a lot of discussion at the board
> > > > > level.
> > >
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