Hi KK,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for drafting and editing this down. I would also suggest we use the cover letter as an opportunity to bullet point our arguments from the comments we submitted earlier. Odds are those comments were never read by GAC members. We might as well hit them over the head with them now (politely, of course). Think this is a good idea?</div>
<div><br></div><div>I'll make some edits to letter to reflect this if we're in agreement. Let me know.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div><br><div>---------------------------------------<br>Brenden Kuerbis<br>
Internet Governance Project<br><a href="http://internetgovernance.org" target="_blank">http://internetgovernance.org</a><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Konstantinos Komaitis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk">k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Forgot to attach :)<br>
<br>
KK<br>
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From: Konstantinos Komaitis <<a href="mailto:k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk">k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk">k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk</a>>><br>
</div>Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:50:54 +0100<br>
To: Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@SYR.EDU">mueller@SYR.EDU</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:mueller@SYR.EDU">mueller@SYR.EDU</a>>>, "<a href="mailto:EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org">EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org">EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org</a>>" <<a href="mailto:ec-ncuc@ipjustice.org">ec-ncuc@ipjustice.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ec-ncuc@ipjustice.org">ec-ncuc@ipjustice.org</a>>><br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">Cc: "Avri org>" <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>>>, Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>>, William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>>, "<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a>>" <<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a>>>, Wendy Seltzer <<a href="mailto:wendy@seltzer.com">wendy@seltzer.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:wendy@seltzer.com">wendy@seltzer.com</a>>>, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM">rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM">rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM</a>>><br>
Subject: Re: NCUC letter to the GAC, RE UDRP<br>
<br>
Shorter, amended version.<br>
<br>
KK<br>
<br>
From: Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@SYR.EDU">mueller@SYR.EDU</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:mueller@SYR.EDU">mueller@SYR.EDU</a>>><br>
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:24:48 +0100<br>
To: Konstantinos Komaitis <<a href="mailto:k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk">k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk">k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk</a>>>, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@SYR.EDU">mueller@SYR.EDU</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:mueller@SYR.EDU">mueller@SYR.EDU</a>>>, "<a href="mailto:EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org">EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org">EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org</a>>" <<a href="mailto:ec-ncuc@ipjustice.org">ec-ncuc@ipjustice.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ec-ncuc@ipjustice.org">ec-ncuc@ipjustice.org</a>>><br>
Cc: "Avri org>" <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>>>, Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>>, William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>>, "<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a>>" <<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a>>>, Wendy Seltzer <<a href="mailto:wendy@seltzer.com">wendy@seltzer.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:wendy@seltzer.com">wendy@seltzer.com</a>>>, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM">rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM">rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM</a>>><br>
Subject: Re: NCUC letter to the GAC, RE UDRP<br>
<br>
Up to you, but I don't think it burns any bridges to be simple & direct about what the letter is about. The risk otherwise is that they just don't read it.<br>
<br>
Milton Mueller<br>
Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original message-----<br>
From: Konstantinos Komaitis <<a href="mailto:k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk">k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk">k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk</a>>><br>
To: Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>>>, "<a href="mailto:EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org">EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org">EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org</a>>" <<a href="mailto:ec-ncuc@ipjustice.org">ec-ncuc@ipjustice.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ec-ncuc@ipjustice.org">ec-ncuc@ipjustice.org</a>>><br>
Cc: "Avri org>" <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>>>, Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>>, William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>>, "<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a>>" <<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a>>>, Wendy Seltzer <<a href="mailto:wendy@seltzer.com">wendy@seltzer.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:wendy@seltzer.com">wendy@seltzer.com</a>>>, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM">rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM">rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM</a>>><br>
Sent: Mon, Sep 26, 2011 13:15:51 GMT+00:00<br>
Subject: Re: NCUC letter to the GAC, RE UDRP<br>
<br>
At this stage, I would prefer if we were to send a polite letter to the GAC instead of cutting bridges before we even started our dialogue with them.I could cut it shorter and insist on the point of the GAC has consulted with the IPC only – my understanding is that the Ry's and Rr's have not been consulted on this letter – am I wrong?<br>
<br>
KK<br>
<br>
From: Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@SYR.EDU">mueller@SYR.EDU</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:mueller@SYR.EDU">mueller@SYR.EDU</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:mueller@SYR.EDU">mueller@SYR.EDU</a>>><br>
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:01:51 +0100<br>
To: Konstantinos Komaitis <<a href="mailto:k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk">k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk">k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk">k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk</a>>>, "<a href="mailto:EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org">EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org">EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org">EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org</a>>" <<a href="mailto:ec-ncuc@ipjustice.org">ec-ncuc@ipjustice.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:ec-ncuc@ipjustice.org">ec-ncuc@ipjustice.org</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:ec-ncuc@ipjustice.org">ec-ncuc@ipjustice.org</a>>><br>
Cc: "Avri org>" <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>>>, Robin Gross <<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:robin@ipjustice.org">robin@ipjustice.org</a>>>, William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>>, "<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a>>" <<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a>>>, Wendy Seltzer <<a href="mailto:wendy@seltzer.com">wendy@seltzer.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:wendy@seltzer.com">wendy@seltzer.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:wendy@seltzer.com">wendy@seltzer.com</a>>>, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM">rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM">rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM">rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM</a>>><br>
Subject: RE: NCUC letter to the GAC, RE UDRP<br>
<br>
I think the letter is too polite, too generic and too long. I think it should say, more simply, that the GAC does not seem to have consulted with stakeholders holding different viewpoints about the UDRP and so we are sending it our views.<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Konstantinos Komaitis [mailto:<a href="mailto:k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk">k.komaitis@strath.ac.uk</a>]<br>
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 7:15 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org">EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org">EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org">EC-NCUC@ipjustice.org</a>><br>
Cc: Avri org>; Robin Gross; William Drake; <a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU">Mary.Wong@LAW.UNH.EDU</a>>; Wendy<br>
Seltzer; Milton L Mueller; Rafik Dammak<br>
Subject: NCUC letter to the GAC, RE UDRP<br>
Dear all,<br>
I've drafted a cover letter to send to the GAC in relation to the UDRP,<br>
attaching at the end NCUC's comments during the public period. Given the<br>
time pressure to send this out to the GAC before the Dakar meeting, I<br>
don't think there is time for the whole list to review it. I am asking<br>
therefore the NCUC EC to tell me whether they agree on sending this to<br>
the GAC. As you may know, the GAC sent a statement to the GNSO<br>
requesting that the UDRP should not be reviewed; this statement was<br>
drafted by the IPC so we need to respond.<br>
Please edit and/or make any additions that you feel are necessary. I<br>
would like to send this to Heather by the end of the week so they can<br>
read it before the GNSO meet with them in Dakar.<br>
Many thanks<br>
KK<br>
--<br>
Dr. Konstantinos Komaitis,<br>
Senior Lecturer in Law,<br>
Director of LLM in Information Technology and Telems. Law, Director of<br>
Postgraduate Instructional Courses, ICANN NCUC Chair University of<br>
Strathclyde, Graham Hills Bld.<br>
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