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Dear Tapani, Dear James,
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<div>Thank you so much for noting and looking into this. I even did not find out the reason why I coud not receive emails from both the ncuc-discuss list and EC list.</div>
<div>Now it seems that James has helped make us white listed.</div>
<div>I would see if it works fine for me tomorrow.</div>
<div>Thanks.</div>
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<div>Best</div>
<div>Peter</div>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>发件人:</b> NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.org> 代表 Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com><br>
<b>发送时间:</b> 2016年4月13日 20:14<br>
<b>收件人:</b> Gannon, James-1; Tapani Tarvainen; ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org; e-team@lists.ncuc.org<br>
<b>主题:</b> Re: [NCUC-EC] [NCUC E-team] List problems</font>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks James.<br>
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From: james-1.gannon@novartis.com<br>
To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com; ncuc@tapani.tarvainen.info; ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org; e-team@lists.ncuc.org<br>
Subject: RE: [NCUC E-team] [NCUC-EC] List problems<br>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:40:55 +0000<br>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:Arial-BoldMT; color:black">James Gannon</span></b></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:8.5pt; font-family:ArialMT; color:black">IGM Manager – Projects & IT Security SME</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Grace Githaiga<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 13 April 2016 12:30<br>
<b>To:</b> Tapani Tarvainen; ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org; e-team@lists.ncuc.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NCUC E-team] [NCUC-EC] List problems</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I think the matter may have been sorted. Now I realize I have not been receiving my responses and yet this should be the case. </span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thanks Tapani :)</span></p>
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<a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:ncuc@tapani.tarvainen.info">ncuc@tapani.tarvainen.info</a>; <a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org">
ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>; <a href="mailto:e-team@lists.ncuc.org">e-team@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:13:17 +0000<br>
Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] List problems</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thank you so much Tapani for taking this up. I actually notice that my response to the list yesterday also bounced. Hope we resolve the matter. If not, then I can be subscribed using my
kictanet email address.</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Grace</span></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:53:32 +0300<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:ncuc@tapani.tarvainen.info">ncuc@tapani.tarvainen.info</a><br>
> To: <a href="mailto:ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-ec@lists.ncuc.org</a>; <a href="mailto:e-team@lists.ncuc.org">
e-team@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
> CC: <a href="mailto:seekcommunications@hotmail.com">seekcommunications@hotmail.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:ggithaiga@hotmail.com">ggithaiga@hotmail.com</a><br>
> Subject: List problems<br>
> <br>
> [Note Cc: e-team, followups about technical stuff there please]<br>
> <br>
> Dear Grace, Zuan, all,<br>
> <br>
> I took a look at server logs. The issue is indeed related to hotmail,<br>
> which was rejecting messages from NCUC's server as spam.<br>
> <br>
> Tentative analysis suggests someone in the same network segment<br>
> as our server has been spamming and hotmail has decided to block<br>
> the entire segment. :-(<br>
> <br>
> Alternatively they may have decided ncuc's mail is spam and blocked<br>
> specifically it, but that seems rather unlikely. It certainly isn't<br>
> on any well-known public blacklist now (just checked).<br>
> <br>
> There is no obvious way to fix this at our end. We can contact<br>
> Gandi in the hope they can track down the culprit and persuade<br>
> Hotmail to take them off the blacklist.<br>
> <br>
> For now, please Cc: Grace and Zuan explicitly.<br>
> <br>
> As a band-aid solution I could set up non-hotmail relay addresses for<br>
> Zuan and Grace somewhere (like on my own server). That's not a very<br>
> sustainable or scalable solution, however - the problem affects all<br>
> ncuc lists, notably including ncuc-discuss, and doing this kind of<br>
> hack for all hotmail users there would not be exactly convenient.<br>
> <br>
> --<br>
> Tapani<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Apr 12 23:10:48 ncuc1 postfix/smtp[14189]: 7743EFDC: to=<<a href="mailto:********@hotmail.com">********@hotmail.com</a>>, relay=mx4.hotmail.com[65.54.188.126]:25, delay=0.72, delays=0.09/0.05/0.44/0.14, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host mx4.hotmail.com[65.54.188.126]
said: 550 SC-001 (BAY004-MC4F43) Unfortunately, messages from 92.243.29.158 weren't sent. Please contact your Internet service provider since part of their network is on our block list. You can also refer your provider to
<a href="http://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx#errors" target="_blank">http://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx#errors</a>. (in reply to MAIL FROM command))<br>
> <br>
> The link given <br>
> <br>
> "550 SC-001 Mail rejected by Outlook.com for policy reasons. Reasons<br>
> for rejection may be related to content with spam-like characteristics<br>
> or IP/domain reputation."<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> -- <br>
> Tapani Tarvainen<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 09:11:34PM +0000, Grace Githaiga wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > @PeterI have had the same problem. Maryam brought this to my attention day before yesterday. I actually thought that I had been unsubscribed as a result of using my hotmail, as a result not gotten some emails. I realize I am not the only one. Maybe it is
the same with Milton. I suspect it is a problem with the system.<br>
> > RgdsGrace<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> > From: Peter Green <<a href="mailto:**********@hotmail.com">**********@hotmail.com</a>><br>
> <br>
> [...]<br>
> <br>
> > Due to issues of excessive mailbox bounces (thanks for Maryam's notification), I was unsubscribed from the EC mailing list for a while. That's why I did not receive emails from the EC for the past couple<br>
> > of weeks, for which I feel so sorry. Luckily, Rafik sent the email to our individual emails. Thanks for that.
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> > <br>
> ><br>
> > I have missed several threads in the EC mailing list, therefore without reponses on my part. Today I reviewd the archives of the EC<br>
> > mail list, and surprisingly found that I began losing emails from the EC list on 15th, March, with the thread titled "Marrakech follow-up ", which was two days after I was back to<br>
> > Beiing from Marrakech.<br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > Sorry for such a loss of emails. I have noted that my mailbox has intermittent connectivity with the EC mailingst and have been trying to find out the<br>
> > problems and then fix it. }}<br>
> > </span></p>
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