<div dir="ltr">I think this is a question that perhaps should be discussed a little more widely within the constituency. To some extent the Confluence stands as the official record.. While it is desirable to not have people going to the wrong place, there might be a solution that allows archiving but redirects non-savvy users to the site via some admin jiggery-pokery. <div>
<br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Wilson Abigaba <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wilson@isoc.ug" target="_blank">wilson@isoc.ug</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br>
<br>
FYI (Ken's email below). I tend to agree with him.<br>
<br>
Looks like NCSG has put a lot on the confluence because they don't<br>
have any other space.<br>
<br>
I now want to suggest to him this below<br>
<br>
- We remove all the other NCUC pages on Confluence and leave only<br>
one, which will be found under GNSO -> Constituencies -> NCUC<br>
- Not sure if redirects are possible, but we could redirect the other<br>
(deleted) pages to our new home as above<br>
- Create a simple clean structure on our new page (mainly the topics<br>
below (policy development etc)<br>
- Migrate all the content from the other sparse pages to this new one<br>
- We'll then start populating that<br>
<br>
If the above is agreed upon, it would also mean that we won't need the<br>
members list et all on the confluence.<br>
<br>
Any thoughts or ideas?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Wilson<br>
<br>
---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
From: Ken Bour <<a href="mailto:ken.bour@verizon.net">ken.bour@verizon.net</a>><br>
Date: Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:34 PM<br>
Subject: RE: Confluence for NCUC<br>
To: Wilson Abigaba <<a href="mailto:wilson@isoc.ug">wilson@isoc.ug</a>><br>
Cc: "Hoggarth, Robert (ICANN)" <<a href="mailto:robert.hoggarth@icann.org">robert.hoggarth@icann.org</a>><br>
<br>
<br>
Wilson:<br>
<br>
I was about to start working on your NCUC space this morning and noticed<br>
that you already created a starting structure which emulates the one found<br>
on <a href="http://new.ncuc.org" target="_blank">new.ncuc.org</a>.<br>
<br>
I find myself puzzled as to why you would want two identical structures. Are<br>
you planning to replicate the content on the Wiki that exists on<br>
<a href="http://new.ncuc.org" target="_blank">new.ncuc.org</a> and, after building the Wiki, would you take down the website?<br>
Having the same information in two (or more) places increases the<br>
maintenance burden, that is, keeping all of the information up-to-date and<br>
consistent between sites. Keep in mind that there is also an area on<br>
<a href="http://gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">gnso.icann.org</a> (see<br>
<a href="http://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg/ncuc" target="_blank">http://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg/ncuc</a>) that<br>
contains NCUC data (although sparse); moreover, I see that some NCUC<br>
information is also replicated in the NCSG Wiki Space<br>
(<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/vIpEAg" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/vIpEAg</a>).<br>
<br>
While the Wiki can serve multiple purposes effectively, it was designed for<br>
and is best suited to collaboration. One option you might consider is to<br>
keep your NCUC website - for push content - and utilize the Wiki as a<br>
workspace where NCUC members can share ideas, develop drafts, and otherwise<br>
perfect statements and positions that will ultimately be hosted on<br>
<a href="http://new.ncuc.org" target="_blank">new.ncuc.org</a>. In that scenario, the Wiki could, at the top, refer visitors<br>
to the formal website for all semi-permanent information about NCUC (About<br>
Us, Governance, Membership, Participation, et al.); whereas, the Wiki site<br>
would contain only structures/headings related to collaboration topics and<br>
functions (e.g., Public Comments, Policy Development).<br>
<br>
I will hold off doing any work on your site pending clarification on your<br>
intentions for the Wiki space.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Ken<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Wilson Abigaba [mailto:<a href="mailto:wilson@isoc.ug">wilson@isoc.ug</a>]<br>
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 9:28 AM<br>
To: Ken Bour<br>
Cc: Hoggarth, Robert (ICANN)<br>
Subject: Re: Confluence for NCUC<br>
<br>
Dear Ken,<br>
<br>
Thanks Ken for your response.<br>
<br>
Rob, do you have some time :) To the least, I want the NCUC home page at<br>
<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomuserconst/NCUC-Home" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomuserconst/NCUC-Home</a><br>
to look like the ncsg one<br>
<a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG-Wiki+Home" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG-Wiki+Home</a><br>
with a nice menu and all pages populated and formatted well.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Wilson<br>
<br>
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Ken Bour <<a href="mailto:ken.bour@verizon.net">ken.bour@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi Wilson:<br>
><br>
> Alas, I am not in Beijing, but would otherwise love to work with you<br>
> on the NCUC-Home page. Perhaps you could reach out to Rob Hoggarth who<br>
> is the ICANN Staff person responsible for the project that involves<br>
> constructing Wiki presences for Constituencies and Stakeholder Groups.<br>
> Rob is in Beijing and, I'm sure, would appreciate talking with you<br>
> about your concepts for the NCUC Wiki Space. He can then direct me as<br>
appropriate.<br>
><br>
> Please advise.<br>
><br>
> Ken<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Wilson Abigaba [mailto:<a href="mailto:wilson@isoc.ug">wilson@isoc.ug</a>]<br>
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 3:01 AM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:ken.bour@verizon.net">ken.bour@verizon.net</a><br>
> Subject: Confluence for NCUC<br>
><br>
> Dear Ken,<br>
><br>
> I am on the Non Commercial Users Constituency and would like to work<br>
> with you in organizing our confluence at<br>
> <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomuserconst/NCUC-Home" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomuserconst/NCUC-Home</a><br>
><br>
> Are you in Beijing and have time to sit with me for a few minutes? How<br>
> can we work on this quickly?<br>
><br>
> Thanks!<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Wilson<br>
><br>
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